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ZX2guy19
05-06-2008, 10:23 PM
Well the other night I went to a My Chemical Romance concert. Into the 2nd song of MCR, I got fucking owned by a crowd surfer. Like, the biggest fucking human there got thrown on me with like iron boots or some shit. I got kicked pretty hard on the left side of my head, toward the back. I black out for a couple seconds, stumbled through the mosh pit, and out of the crowd. I couldn't move my head up until this morning. So here is what is currently going on:

I can't feel my head....like...literally. If I scratch my head, nothing. Brush my hair? Nothing. Get a head job from a porn star, I wouldn't be able to feel it. My head is totally numb. It also hurts to turn my head to the right.

So what should I do? Ride the storm out or is it serious enough to go to the hospital or w/e. It has gotten better, but it seems to have plateaued. IDK man, I just want my head back.

:[

zxtwou2
05-06-2008, 10:25 PM
stop listening to emo rock my MCR...that's what i'd do. honestly, if it's bothering you that much..go see a doctor. do it NOW while you are still on your parent's insurance :beernana:

AtlanticblueZX2
05-06-2008, 10:25 PM
i'd def. get it checked. hopefully they didnt hurt anything in your spine

ZX2guy19
05-06-2008, 10:34 PM
Well I can hear fine, see fine, everything is 'fine' except for not knowing weather or not my head is still attached because I can't feel it.

zxtwou2
05-06-2008, 10:37 PM
it doesn't matter what isn't wrong...what matters is that there's SOMETHING wrong...so get it checked. that's like saying...i slept with a hooker...i can still pee and it still gets hard..but i have black, frothy discharge...but it still works, so i won't see the doctor. :shrug:

ZX2guy19
05-06-2008, 10:39 PM
True...lol. I think I'll get it checked tomorrow. But seriously, wtf can they do for a numb head? LOL

zxtwou2
05-06-2008, 10:50 PM
an MRI :wiggle:

ZX2guy19
05-06-2008, 10:52 PM
Yah, but where from there?

zxtwou2
05-06-2008, 10:57 PM
you'll probably get a referral to a diagnostics imaging place...and get one there.

ZX2guy19
05-06-2008, 10:58 PM
Fuck man. So if they find something, are they going to have to do like open brain surgery? LOL

zxtwou2
05-06-2008, 11:00 PM
not necissarily...you won't know til you go. maybe it's just some temporary swelling causing adverse affects. i'm not a Dr...yet...so ya gotta go see one. :upsidenana:

mellowness65
05-06-2008, 11:18 PM
yeah dude you don't want to mess around with that, your skull is thick towards the back but it's protecting the most necessary parts of the brain. If you took a kick from a gothapotamus with steel boots there you wanna make sure everything's still ok

1337
05-06-2008, 11:26 PM
Go to your local doctor.. and don't listen to MCR anymore..

af3ll
05-06-2008, 11:54 PM
You got hurt at a My Chemical Romance show? That's as bad as getting hurt watching Celine Dion.

zxtwou2
05-07-2008, 12:15 AM
i thought the only way to get hurt at a MCR concert...was if someone dropped their razor blade on your foot...or died and landed on you from the balcony.

LunchBoxZX2
05-07-2008, 01:01 AM
Who crowd surfs at a MCR concert? Go get your head checked, numbness of any kind is generally not good, especially after it's been a couple days.

Also, find that guy, and give him a moron stamp, right on his forehead.

ZX2guy19
05-07-2008, 05:33 AM
Well my dad said he doesn't want to pay the money for me to go to the hospital (he makes 100k a year). Fuck my life lol. Oh well, if my nerves are damaged and I can't feel my brain for the rest of my life, at least he saved his $100 co-pay right?

younglink309
05-07-2008, 06:29 AM
dude, MCR concerts have mosh pits?

I'd have never guessed...

Connal
05-07-2008, 06:30 AM
Well my dad said he doesn't want to pay the money for me to go to the hospital (he makes 100k a year). Fuck my life lol. Oh well, if my nerves are damaged and I can't feel my brain for the rest of my life, at least he saved his $100 co-pay right?

start being melodramatic about the pain.

Just lay on the couch and yell "Woe is me, woe is me."Or just do really strange things like talk to apliances. Maybe he will get the hint.

LunchBoxZX2
05-07-2008, 07:15 AM
$100 co-pay? That's insanely high for a regular visit. So, what does he expect you to do? You got kicked in the head and now you have no feeling... does he think you're playing or something?

2000ZxT
05-07-2008, 08:48 AM
That doesn't sound that bad man, I wouldn't worry about it.

Advil.

JonsZX2SR
05-07-2008, 09:34 AM
Well my dad said he doesn't want to pay the money for me to go to the hospital (he makes 100k a year). Fuck my life lol. Oh well, if my nerves are damaged and I can't feel my brain for the rest of my life, at least he saved his $100 co-pay right?

Translation: He wants you to take responsibility for your actions. If you go crowd surfing or other risky business and get hurt, he expects you to cover the co-payment.

Basically he doesn't want to continue to pay for your risky actions. It's time that you took responsibility. I hope you understand this.

How much he makes is irrelevant. It may not seem like much to you, but that's not the point. He doesn't want to be put in the position of being told how to spend his money. (He probably already has this problem with your mother...)

The Dad
05-07-2008, 10:21 AM
Okay, time for me to chime in. I have led a pretty colorful life myself (lots of injuries), and have 2 sons (21 & 16).

First question.......What did you do to piss your dad off enough to deny you medical treatment?, especially for a condition which would have long lasting effects on you in the future. Head, neck & spine (yes, spine) injuries are serious business. I would never deny either of my sons treatment, no matter how old they are, if they are covered or not on my insurance. I have had emergency medical training in the military and these injuries can lead to long term problems if left untreated. Tell your dad that you will flip for the co-pays (or pay him back).

Second question..............The venue where you saw the concert, do they not have insurance? Were there witnesses who can account for what happened? By allowing "body surfing" at this concert, they open themselves up to possible civil liability by not "assuring you a safe enviornment to enjoy the show" (my words, not law, but you should get it). You may be able to get them to pay for it.

Good luck.

Buster
05-07-2008, 10:24 AM
Get it checked out, then start wearing men's pants and stop wearing eyeliner. ;)


Hope you're OK. I'd be worried about the numbness. Hopefully it's just a pinched nerve and nothing permament.

Buster
05-07-2008, 10:25 AM
Well my dad said he doesn't want to pay the money for me to go to the hospital (he makes 100k a year). Fuck my life lol. Oh well, if my nerves are damaged and I can't feel my brain for the rest of my life, at least he saved his $100 co-pay right?

Wait, you could feel your brain BEFORE? :eeek:

ZX2guy19
05-07-2008, 10:55 AM
Jon, I wasn't even near like the huge crowd, I was just at the concert and someone got thrown on me I guess, IDK I blacked out like I said.

If he is going to take my economic stimulus check because he is still in charge of me, then he needs to take responsibility for me in this matter too, right?

2000zx2chik
05-07-2008, 10:58 AM
Start walking into things and tell him you cant feel your head and your loosing your sight..If that wont get his attention i dont know what will..

Really though, You definently need to get that checked out.

af3ll
05-07-2008, 11:43 AM
Translation: He wants you to take responsibility for your actions. If you go crowd surfing or other risky business and get hurt, he expects you to cover the co-payment.

Basically he doesn't want to continue to pay for your risky actions. It's time that you took responsibility. I hope you understand this.

How much he makes is irrelevant. It may not seem like much to you, but that's not the point. He doesn't want to be put in the position of being told how to spend his money. (He probably already has this problem with your mother...)

Well the other night I went to a My Chemical Romance concert. Into the 2nd song of MCR, I got fucking owned by a crowd surfer. Like, the biggest fucking human there got thrown on me with like iron boots or some shit. I got kicked pretty hard on the left side of my head, toward the back.

Where does it say that he was crowd surfing? Once again old wise John is trying to make the youngans responsible.

Buster
05-07-2008, 11:50 AM
Well, Jon has somewhat of a point. Simply going to a concert with these type of people doing those types of things (crowdsurfing, moshing, whatever) is a risky behavior. This is why I usually buy a seat instead of standing in front of the stage amongst the crazy people/jerks. I've seen people with broken bones and bloody faces because these brain-damaged kids thing karate kicking other people is some form of dancing.

Yeah, sure, I'm another old fart who preaches responsibility too. :D

CJW
05-07-2008, 11:51 AM
Your dad is an idiot.

Who's he to say you don't have some brain aneurysm now and are going to die if not treated in a few days

Again, for those who didn't see it, Your dad is an idiot

I'm not even going to touch on the idiot crowd surfing at an Emo concert. Or the fact that you were probably swimming in a very large group of girl pants wearing males.

Buster
05-07-2008, 11:57 AM
I would agree with that. Bad decision or not, you should take care of your kid's medical issues.

But putting yourself in danger isn't a good idea either. Maybe you should lay off the concerts for the suicidal in the future though...your dad probably won't help you anyways, but if it's a concussion, it's VERY easy to get them once you've had your first one.

Doesn't sound like a concussion by the symptoms though...I had one when I played basketball and just blacked out with headaches, no numbness.

ZetecInside
05-07-2008, 12:15 PM
1) Get your head checked out by a doctor, immediately. If you have $100 lying around, pay for the co-pay yourself if you have to. Worry about the cost later - your brain is not something to fuck around with.


2) Your dad is a moron and could be found (criminally) negligent for not adequately taking care of a potentially serious medical problem.


3) (To the people harping on him for "risky behavior"). The guy was just at a concert. He never said he was moshing or crowd surfing. He was just there. Sometimes shit happens to you even when you're not putting yourself in harms way. Simply going to a concert is no more risky that driving a car, crossing a sidewalk, riding a bike, or doing any number of activities that you guys do on a daily basis, so STFU.


4) Stop listening to My Chemical Romance. The boot to the head wasn't your fault, but you are subjecting yourself to brain damage by even listening to that emo sh*t.

Buster
05-07-2008, 12:25 PM
re: 1)

You're absolutely right.


re: 2)

I thought he was 18 now. Child services or the courts can no longer prosecute the dad for this.

I do agree, he SHOULD still help his son though.



re: 3)

Standing at a concert, especially the type of music where people act like they're on fire and hate everyone around them, IS extra risk. The dad has the right to tell the son this happened because he put himself in the situation he did, but he still should help the kid and hopefully he'll learn a lesson. Even if he didn't go to dance like a bear who sat on an anthill, he knowlingly put himself with or in the middle of those who do. If you don't want to risk injury, get a seat. It usually sounds better there anyways.



re: 4)

Agree 100%. :D

rusty
05-07-2008, 01:20 PM
1.) why did you go to a my chemical romance concert?

2.) why didnt you kick the homo back?

3.) why were you listening to MCR?

4.) why are my shoes brown?

5.) Did Adam and Eve have belly buttons?

6.) Why would you listen to my chem?

7.) Do radioactive cats have 18 half lives?

8.) Just get your dad off his ass to take you to the hospital?

9.) what about your mom?

10.) What were you thinking when you went to this concert?

11.) were you heavily sedated on drugs when you went to tight pants concert?

JonsZX2SR
05-07-2008, 01:45 PM
It doesn't matter what concert he went to or what he decides to do as long as he takes responsibility for his own actions.

The question is how old is he. Is he 17 or younger ?? 18 or 19 ?? ...or is he older and still living at home ??

If he's a 17 or younger obviously his parents should pay for his medical bills. That being said they should also tell him what to do and if he doesn't like it he can plan to move out of the house when he is capable. If the parents are expected to take care of and support him as a minor, then he needs to be obedient like a minor living at home.

If he's 18 or 19 he's probably transitioning to becoming self sufficient. If he expects the parents to continue supprting him, then he needs to listen to limits his parents set. Being 18 doesn't automatically mean someone is 100% in charge of their own life when they are still living on someone else's money.

If he is 20 or older, still living at home and working he should be taking more responsibility for his own expenses. It's great that his father's health care covers him, but shouldn't he take responsibility to pay part or all of the co-payment ??

The same applies to how much freedom he has. If he is still taking $$ from the parents, then he is still beholden to the parents. a lot of you are not going to like hearing this, but it is part of growing up and becoming self sufficient.

If he is 20 or older, still living at home and not working, there are problems that go well beyond the scope of this discussion.

There are two sides of this. Parent wants the young adult to take more responsibility for himself. Young adult wants to be independent but wants to tell parents what to do with their money and that they want continued financial support.

It all comes down to "Iho's the boss ??" I can tell you it isn't the young adult who is going to win the argument.

Attempting to pin the blame on the parents for you not taking responsibility for getting medical help is misleading. the first thing you should have done is seek help at the concert.

If you are concerned about your health, instead of making excuses that you can't go because parents don't want to make the co-pay, you should go as soon as possible and offer to make the payment yourself. It is your health that you are talking about.

When you are self-supporting you will have to make these payments yourself, this is an good time to start making the transition.

ImCrazy
05-07-2008, 02:10 PM
goto the fucking doctor dude!

Buster
05-07-2008, 02:12 PM
goto the fucking doctor dude!

No, it was the UPPER head he hurt.

ImCrazy
05-07-2008, 02:13 PM
haha fuck u.


seriously tho brad this isn't something to fool around with just go see the doctor.

rocky l
05-07-2008, 10:11 PM
Hi there. If by now you haven't sought medical attention, 2 places to try.
1) your local community health clinic. 2) your local general hosp. Both have ways to
help you get the medical attn. you need. Don't have a lot of money? They are set up
to help financially. It's very rare that they will turn you away.
Hope you are getting some feeling back in your head by now.
Keep us posted.
Rocky

af3ll
05-07-2008, 11:05 PM
Well, Jon has somewhat of a point. Simply going to a concert with these type of people doing those types of things (crowdsurfing, moshing, whatever) is a risky behavior. This is why I usually buy a seat instead of standing in front of the stage amongst the crazy people/jerks. I've seen people with broken bones and bloody faces because these brain-damaged kids thing karate kicking other people is some form of dancing.

Yeah, sure, I'm another old fart who preaches responsibility too. :D
Not being on the floor is a waste of money. Yes you are old and boring. My first slam at you on the new board haha.

Connal
05-07-2008, 11:40 PM
haha fuck u.


seriously tho brad this isn't something to fool around with just go see the doctor.

Yeah, today it is numbness, tomorrow who knows. You could have swelling, nerve damage, anything.

It's on thing to break a toe and avoid going to the hospital. All they will do is say "go easy on it". Not much they can do for something like this.

However, something that could escalate seriously needs to be taken care of. If need be, I can start a collection to cover the copay. And I'm not kidding.

My cousin was in a car wreck years back. He kept saying he had a headache, no one thought much of it. Due to complications he is now mentally disabled. It's nothing seriously disabling, but enough that he is a tad on the slow side.

1337
05-08-2008, 11:08 AM
dude, MCR concerts have mosh pits?

I'd have never guessed...

yea, I thought they just stood around in circles and cut their wrists, while blacking their eyes... Guess that's just Hauthourn Heights...

ZX2guy19
05-08-2008, 11:10 AM
Literally, maybe 10 people were not wearing black. It was so funny because it was so stereotypically true.

I wore red and the girl I went with wore a white polka dot tank top...lol. We felt so out of place.

zxtuner98
05-08-2008, 11:11 AM
Literally, maybe 10 people were not wearing black. It was so funny because it was so stereotypically true.

I wore red and the girl I went with wore a white polka dot tank top...lol. We felt so out of place.

you didnt go to the doctor yet? and did you bang this girl yet? i mean, again. lol

ZX2guy19
05-08-2008, 11:12 AM
No to both.

zxtuner98
05-08-2008, 11:13 AM
Well, go do both.

DragonflvZX2
05-09-2008, 11:02 PM
...are you sure you were hit. Cause i had similar results listening to MCR...just a thought.

Katie

Buster
05-12-2008, 09:37 AM
^HA...



So, how's your head feeling? Get it looked at or did it get better on its own?

yellow2000S/R
05-12-2008, 04:41 PM
Go get a scan done.

Back 5 years ago I fell hard snowboarding and blacked out for a while. Worst pain followed and I never got it checked out. I started having back pain, my neck would get HOT, and I would get pain shooting down my right leg... so I went to the Dr and they sent me in for x-rays and I developed Scoliosis and had a mild case of whiplash.

You probably have a pinched nerve... something is either out of location in your neck, or something is swollen causing the nerves not to send signals to your brain.


Get it checked out man!

ZX2guy19
05-12-2008, 10:55 PM
Well I can now fully turn my head with no pain at all. The numbness is nearly full gone and it is just swollen. I think I'll be ok on this one.

Buster
05-13-2008, 10:53 AM
Well that's good.

Hopefully it won't be a reoccuring thing that can return easily.