Pics of my tranny drop progress

[00zx2s/r]

Well some of you know already. This past weekend I went auto-x'in for the first time and she's broke... Most of us think it's the clutch, so I gota drop the tranny. I was lucky enough to grab the how to off of the old site in between it's up and down time! But the how to is kinda confusing. I've spent three days on this, a few hours each day.
I'm just about done I think, have to unbolt the tranny from the motor, take out the cross member and hopefully she'll drop...
I don't see y you have to take out the starter tho... doesn't seem in the way. IDK... lol

PICS:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b341/Pepsi_suks/my%20beautiful/tranny%20drop/102_6724.jpg
^ up on 4x4's and jacks v
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b341/Pepsi_suks/my%20beautiful/tranny%20drop/102_6738.jpg

my cart of tools and parts:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b341/Pepsi_suks/my%20beautiful/tranny%20drop/102_6725.jpg

cat had to be taken out but last time went to shop they double threaded the bolts so we had to cut em off... might have to get new header now...:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b341/Pepsi_suks/my%20beautiful/tranny%20drop/102_6730.jpg

Above the tranny:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b341/Pepsi_suks/my%20beautiful/tranny%20drop/102_6729.jpg

under the car shot:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b341/Pepsi_suks/my%20beautiful/tranny%20drop/102_6737.jpg

the wire through the gear things so they dont fall out:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b341/Pepsi_suks/my%20beautiful/tranny%20drop/102_6736.jpg

Under the hood:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b341/Pepsi_suks/my%20beautiful/tranny%20drop/102_6728.jpg

[5spdzx2]

Ford sure did make it a pain to maintain these cars. How was it taking that cross member off being that your in michigan? Mine is siezed like a bitch on there.

[00zx2s/r]

haha well after about 3 sprays of WD40 on each bolt, a few cuss words, my dad throwing a ratchet across the garage, a mini breaker bar, and a 5 foot long 1/4" breaker bar, they came off! lol

I think you get my point! lol

[WickedZ]

Man I would have loved to help you with this. Is this your first time? I could have guided you through this whole process. I had to replace my clutch at one point to ;)

[00zx2s/r]

ya it is my first time... Never done something this big on my car before... lol

[WickedZ]

oh man, we could have had it done within the day, thats new clutch and everything.

[00zx2s/r]

haha I bet, but I do have school so maybe not one day! lol But I haven't even bought the new clutch yet because It's not guaranteed thats it...

[TSmiley98]

Ford sure did make it a pain to maintain these cars. How was it taking that cross member off being that your in michigan? Mine is siezed like a bitch on there.

your nuts, these are alot easier than some cars out there. drop the axles, cross member bolts, (leave attatched to the tranny) pull the tranny top mount (both pieces) , shift linkages, unbolt slave cylinder, put jack under x-member, unbolt tranny, and drop it out, leaving the engine hanging on its one mount.. radiator is a great idea for clearance and insurance that you dont smash it.

[00zx2s/r]

wait y do I have to unbolt the slave cylinder? can't it come of with it?

Those directions were confusing...

[5spdzx2]

Quote:
Originally Posted by 5spdzx2
Ford sure did make it a pain to maintain these cars. How was it taking that cross member off being that your in michigan? Mine is siezed like a bitch on there.

your nuts, these are alot easier than some cars out there. drop the axles, cross member bolts, (leave attatched to the tranny) pull the tranny top mount (both pieces) , shift linkages, unbolt slave cylinder, put jack under x-member, unbolt tranny, and drop it out, leaving the engine hanging on its one mount.. radiator is a great idea for clearance and insurance that you dont smash it.
Maybe im being unfair towards compact cars (and fwd) but when compared to things such as a miata or a mustang or similar, its cake. You dont have to take the whole car apart to change one thing.

[WickedZ]

yeah I actually thought pulling a tranny in our cars was quite easy.

[TSmiley98]

wait y do I have to unbolt the slave cylinder? can't it come of with it?

Those directions were confusing...

if you dont you have to bleed the line when installing it.. If the directions were confusing, read more on the chiltons manual before attempting this at home.. J/K, It is easier to leave as much together as possible.. instead of taking the crossmember off of the tranny , leave it bolted on with the 14mm nuts, just take out the 17mm nuts/bolts

[00zx2s/r]

my chiltons doesn't say much on removing the tranny... But ya I planned on only taking off the 17mm and I disconnect the clutch line right at the tranny mount!

[TSmiley98]

it makes less of a mess .. to take off the top tranny mount, (3 17mm nuts with center washers) and 4 14mm fastners on the frame rail (2 nuts 2 bolts) then there are 3 17mm bolts on teh bottom half of the mount that hold it to the tranny, the hard line for the slave cylinder runs there.. under there there is a bracket with 2 12mm bolts holding the line and 2 12mm bolts on the slave cylinder, now you can reinstall without help to bleed the clutch and without making an oil mess everywhere

[zxtwou2]

haha well after about 3 sprays of WD40 on each bolt, a few cuss words, my dad throwing a ratchet across the garage, a mini breaker bar, and a 5 foot long 1/4" breaker bar, they came off! lol

I think you get my point! lol

hope your dad doesn't have a bad idea of autoXing because of all this. at least we were there to push it up on the trailer for ya :D

[00zx2s/r]

haha no he's not that mad actually. The only thing he was mad about is when I told my mom about Auto-x, I kinda made it sound like I hated it because I was pissed about the clutch. lol. But ya he's all for making my car way better for next time!

[zxtwou2]

good! get him out there to co-drive like ryan and i did! he'll love it!

also...next time you race, leave the clutch alone. only use it to switch gears.

[1newZX2]

if you dont you have to bleed the line when installing it.. If the directions were confusing, read more on the chiltons manual before attempting this at home.. J/K, It is easier to leave as much together as possible.. instead of taking the crossmember off of the tranny , leave it bolted on with the 14mm nuts, just take out the 17mm nuts/bolts

OMG are you kinding me :eek: that would never work. take as much off the tranny as possible. it just makes it easier. and your deffinetly going to need to take off that crossmember

[zxtuner98]

anti seize your crossmember bolts. I did it the first time i dropped mine. My neighbor (worked at ford all his life) said one thing that suckwas those crossmembers. They were always seized. I LOVE anti-seize haha. Good luck dude. Be grateful you have a garage!

[00zx2s/r]

good! get him out there to co-drive like ryan and i did! he'll love it!

also...next time you race, leave the clutch alone. only use it to switch gears.
ya he prob will one of these times. And dude, it broke the time after I tried not touching the clutch. When I did use the clutch, she ran fine! lol

OMG are you kinding me :eek: that would never work. take as much off the tranny as possible. it just makes it easier. and your deffinetly going to need to take off that crossmember
actually it did! lol left the crossmember on along w/ a bunch of other things! lol

anti seize your crossmember bolts. I did it the first time i dropped mine. My neighbor (worked at ford all his life) said one thing that suckwas those crossmembers. They were always seized. I LOVE anti-seize haha. Good luck dude. Be grateful you have a garage!
ya I'm really glad I have a garage. And I don't know wut anti-seize is... but they came off w/ some WD-40! lol

[00zx2s/r]

UPDATE!!!

All right well I finally got the tranny case off. Had some difficulties but I got her! But now what??? What exactly am I looking for? Nothing seems broken and there was a lil gear residue on the bottom of the case that I don't think is good. But what's next?

[zxtuner98]

Anti seize is a lubricant that doesnt really wear off. It keeps corrosion away. Leave bolts "anti-seized."

That doesnt look like any centerforce clutch ive ever seen. Looks just like my stock clutch.

[00zx2s/r]

Anti seize is a lubricant that doesnt really wear off. It keeps corrosion away. Leave bolts "anti-seized."

That doesnt look like any centerforce clutch ive ever seen. Looks just like my stock clutch.

I better not have one of the few s/r's that left factory w/o all the right parts...

[zxtuner98]

Centerforces have orange pressure plates.

[00zx2s/r]

idk wut part the pressure plate is! lol

[zxtuner98]

Orange part here = pressure plate

[00zx2s/r]

:shrug: anybody got some info???? I need help here!

[zxtuner98]

I think you got jiffed on your clutch. Its not like you needed it either. Stock clutches work fine. And to be honest, i dont see anything wrong with your clutch at all.

[00zx2s/r]

then y doesn't my car work? lol

[zxtuner98]

You have any picture's of the clutch disc? The pressure plate looks fine, with no abnormal signs of wear.

[00zx2s/r]

well that's the thing. I don't know wut the clutch disk is. I'm assuming the next part under the top one... lol. I'll have to go out and tinker in a min!

[zxtwou2]

my guess is that either the clutch was fried, or the pilot bearing... the car worked alright, it could shift...but with the car off. once it was on, the clutch was engaged all the time, and the car would move...it just wouldn't disengage.

[00zx2s/r]

^ya basically!

First two pics, same thing, different angle.
third pic, the plate flipped over.
fourth pic, dust stuff! lol
fifth pic, flywheel
sixth pic, fly wheel gear thing
last pic, the lil hole! lol

[zxtuner98]

The car SHOULD move with that clutch. Granted its not in the BEST shape but its not that bad. And that is a LUK clutch.

[Tedmx22]

I like how you took off the passenger side axle and just let it hang. Buy why remove the rad? Any other short cuts. Mine took lots of time too. But after you do it once you rid yourself of the hardspots.

[gunman_sr5]

A clutch swap takes us 3 hours and that was taking our time last weekend. Disc looks like its about dead. I would check to make sure the pilot bearing didn't go to bits. Its in the back of the crankshaft. There are needle rollers in there. they should spin free and not be just laying everywhere like mine where. As for removing the starter. That is due to the fact the 3 bolts hold it to the trans housing. Does the throwout bearing make any noise when you spin it? Its the one that is attached to the fork in the trans. Now just out of curiosity why did you drop the exhaust off? Good luck finishing it up! Hope to hear some good news from the track in the near future!

[Tedmx22]

I know there are several way to remove the MTX. Reason for exhaust drop would be: spatial clearance (yes, spatial: pertaining to space. Not special), positioning, improper tools, etc.

And My favorite.....HEADERS complete w/Cat Back!

For those of you who have found a way to get around the bolts next to the Cat, then please let us know what exactly worked for you. And don't say, you chose not to replace the bolts.

[rusty]

my guess is that either the clutch was fried, or the pilot bearing... the car worked alright, it could shift...but with the car off. once it was on, the clutch was engaged all the time, and the car would move...it just wouldn't disengage.

This same thing happened to me a while back. Wound up being a few fucked up gears in the tranny and a bad synchro. I had to get my whole tranny sent away and rebuilt since i am not very good with transmission internals. Your clutch looks fine, but i would suggest replacing it anyways since you have it out and it seems like you have a lot of clutch dust in your bell housing.

[SnowBoardinWNY]

I know there are several way to remove the MTX. Reason for exhaust drop would be: spatial clearance (yes, spatial: pertaining to space. Not special), positioning, improper tools, etc.

And My favorite.....HEADERS complete w/Cat Back!

For those of you who have found a way to get around the bolts next to the Cat, then please let us know what exactly worked for you. And don't say, you chose not to replace the bolts.

ratcheting wrenches work wonders. I have a bolt that I did not replace near my cat but thats because I lost it. I don't get your statement, if you can take a bolt out you can put it back in so I don't understand what your getting at.

[00zx2s/r]

I like how you took off the passenger side axle and just let it hang. Buy why remove the rad? Any other short cuts. Mine took lots of time too. But after you do it once you rid yourself of the hardspots.

I had to remove the radiator because the shop I used to take my car to, cross threaded the bolts connecting cat to header, so we had to saw it off...


And I have already bought a new clutch with all new bearings. I'm going to take a peak inside the tranny and make sure nothing else is harmed.

[corby_baby]

what clutch are you goign with?

[00zx2s/r]

spec stage 2 from treperformance.com

[Tedmx22]

ratcheting wrenches work wonders. I have a bolt that I did not replace near my cat but thats because I lost it. I don't get your statement, if you can take a bolt out you can put it back in so I don't understand what your getting at.

The reason(s) not to put it back on is (are) the hardships associated to taking it off. Whether it be not enough clearance to work with or other near-by parts had to be removed in order to reach that one hard-to-reach bolt or you don't want to sacrifice the fresh gasket(s) you had just installed. But, if you can help it, by all means reinstall it of course, do your very best. Sometimes though, the agony required to take it off may not be worth it.

[wudafxup]

nice tool setup bro

[00zx2s/r]

Well F%$@! I get the tranny back up go to put in the ds axle and realize there is a ring that has to be compressed in order for the axle to go in all the way, so I pull it out, think I have the ring compressed enough but I don't. The axle and ring get jammed up about half way into the differential... And now it won't even pull out. We've tried using a prybar at the same top from top and bottom. Now I have to try removing the tranny case out a few inches and see if I can reach the ring...

Plus I punctured a hole in the axle boot closest to the tranny and it's leaking shit all over. Is the hole repairable? or do I have to buy a whole new axler from tranny to rotor? What's the technical name because on NAPA online I can't find just a front axle...

If this hole isn't repairable then there's another $___ down the drain...

[texas_04]

this is turning out to be quite the learning experience.

[texas_04]

Good luck with it all.