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CrashAction55
09-23-2009, 11:44 AM
Check this out go to

Gude.com


They have the whole prted head assembly with ported throttle body regrind cams valves and so on. it makes 170 or so whp and 160 torque. Hit it up and tell me what ya think. Im def going to go with gude. Bill up there is cool as shit once u get him started talking he goes on and on about racing lol. And it all is around 1600 or so bucks CHEEEEEAAAAAP. If u parted it all together it would cost up to 3000 for the whole works and thats no joke ive done alot of research.and they even ship the head assembled its damn near a bolt and go operation. He can send the dynocharts to prove his work He has been doint this for 30 years and has a good name to id def check it out.

Gude.com

capitalcrew
09-23-2009, 11:46 AM
What is this? A fucking advertisement?

OMG I never knew gude made shit for the zx2!

SeRiousZX2
09-23-2009, 11:56 AM
lol. this is nothing new there youngster. My car was complete Gude. And no your car won't gain 160-170 hp from the package. The most that has ever been gained was 58 whp tuned with different cams and race fuel.

After I installed mine, untuned I gained about 30 whp.

mellowness65
09-23-2009, 01:07 PM
what's a gude?

SeRiousZX2
09-23-2009, 01:19 PM
Rofl!!!

joshalabama
09-23-2009, 01:20 PM
It is def. a nice package though, I mean i'm rocking serious's old gude head.

SeRiousZX2
09-23-2009, 01:42 PM
It is def. a nice package though, I mean i'm rocking serious's old gude head.

Word.

CrashAction55
09-23-2009, 01:44 PM
lol. this is nothing new there youngster. My car was complete Gude. And no your car won't gain 160-170 hp from the package. The most that has ever been gained was 58 whp tuned with different cams and race fuel.

After I installed mine, untuned I gained about 30 whp.

No shit thats for the the dirt track package when u tell him its for a dirt track car he will make the had a higher compresion head with more agressive cams for dirt track racing which happens to be the type of thread ur in. So go on with ur street car and ur street car sense of thinking and try to impress sombody else. WTF

CrashAction55
09-23-2009, 01:51 PM
[QUOTE=capitalcrew;346488]What is this? A fucking advertisement?



Why is there so many haters in this site i was just telling everyone that dirt track races about the site i found and expained some detail they could check out on a web site. and compare prices to and have to do alot of the work ur self. Go bash on some other shit if ur not wanting to help out with ideas or swap tricks.

CrashAction55
09-23-2009, 01:59 PM
lol. this is nothing new there youngster. My car was complete Gude. And no your car won't gain 160-170 hp from the package. The most that has ever been gained was 58 whp tuned with different cams and race fuel.

After I installed mine, untuned I gained about 30 whp.

and who would install all new cams port a head and leave the car untuned youngster.


and when we get 170 hp for 1600 hell will freeze and pigs would fly and i would take ur mom for a ride in it. youngster

jdrzx2
09-23-2009, 02:03 PM
There are haters here for a reason... You must not have been around long.

pissdrunx16
09-23-2009, 02:04 PM
I don't know how you come up with 3k fo a head build? I have a decent package I am putting together now and I have only spent about $900.
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CrashAction55
09-23-2009, 02:04 PM
what's a gude?

Chec out gude.com

ZX2 Sleeper
09-23-2009, 02:24 PM
Chec out gude.com

The joke is on you fool. Everyone that has been on this site for Lets says 6 months knows what gude is all about. SeriousZx2 had one of THE nicest zx2's of all time, so go on to some other bs forum and talk your nonsense. As of now, i don't think anyone likes you on this site.

pissdrunx16
09-23-2009, 02:24 PM
What I think everyone is trying to tell you is.... Gude is nothing "new" they have been around for some time now. The heads are decent, turbo kits not so decent (well from what Ive heard anyways)
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CrashAction55
09-23-2009, 03:04 PM
I don't know how you come up with 3k fo a head build? I have a decent package I am putting together now and I have only spent about $900.
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thats a ported head frim frtb frvalve springs high torque II matching cams 33 mm valves new header ported tb All thestuff it takes u should redo to install new cams xacl 3 injectors gaskets.


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capitalcrew
09-23-2009, 03:06 PM
Some time? Gude is old as dirt. Turbo kits are good but they had a problem with internally gated turbos. Kickers set up was all worked out with gude, IIRC.

capitalcrew
09-23-2009, 03:07 PM
Oh, and I'm a hater for a reason, as said. Your post is equivalent to some one coming in and saying, "Dude, you can get stuff on ebay".

pissdrunx16
09-23-2009, 03:10 PM
Well I already have header, adjustable cam gears, vct delete, and xcal. So I have spent about $900 on my ported head, upgraded valve springs, and stage 2 torque cams. I am missing a TB, firm, and the oversized valves! You just need to shop around.... Better. Haha
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mellowness65
09-23-2009, 03:21 PM
I was joking. Use that little search tab at the top of the page to find 177 threads mentioning gude. Read the newbie thread man.

capitalcrew
09-23-2009, 03:24 PM
178 including this one....

capitalcrew
09-23-2009, 03:25 PM
471 posts with the word "gude" in them.

CrashAction55
09-23-2009, 03:40 PM
The joke is on you fool. Everyone that has been on this site for Lets says 6 months knows what gude is all about. SeriousZx2 had one of THE nicest zx2's of all time, so go on to some other bs forum and talk your nonsense. As of now, i don't think anyone likes you on this site.
Ive been on here for 2 months and havnt heard about a gude head package ne the only thing ive heard about was a gude 421 header and they said they was hard to find. Which dont make sense if they can make u one any day of the week if u call them. And the ones that dont like me are prob the same iv'e asked a question before and got a statement back with the idea of letting me know he has been on the sight forever and he knows everything instead of helping out the new guy who hasnt been workin around a zx2 since 98. I was telling some of the other guys who havnt heard about gude whats up and it would be cool as shit if i could do it and a zx2 vetern give feedback instead posting he lives in a forum.

carbonzx2
09-23-2009, 03:43 PM
Ive been on here for 2 months and havnt heard about a gude head package ne the only thing ive heard about was a gude 421 header and they said they was hard to find. Which dont make sense if they can make u one any day of the week if u call them. And the ones that dont like me are prob the same iv'e asked a question before and got a statement back with the idea of letting me know he has been on the sight forever and he knows everything instead of helping out the new guy who hasnt been workin around a zx2 since 98. I was telling some of the other guys who havnt heard about gude whats up and it would be cool as shit if i could do it and a zx2 vetern give feedback instead posting he lives in a forum.


those questions are best to post on the newbies section. while im sure everyone would still want to give you hell on that section, they wont per the rules. Thanks for the info on the head package, not everyone knew about that.

mellowness65
09-23-2009, 03:43 PM
2 days ago: http://www.teamzx2.com/showthread.php?t=20163

CrashAction55
09-23-2009, 03:57 PM
Well I already have header, adjustable cam gears, vct delete, and xcal. So I have spent about $900 on my ported head, upgraded valve springs, and stage 2 torque cams. I am missing a TB, firm, and the oversized valves! You just need to shop around.... Better. Haha
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i just priced everything new ol buddy. I prefer to buy it that way if im building a motor. Id rather buy it and be the first to wear it out. Or maybe u got some better connects. Which would be sweet and if i did i would post the better deals like i happen to try to do in this thread. And all i got is hell over it. Ive asked a bunch on here about na hp and never got told about gude. So when i found it i posed it for the new guys in dirt track racing to see the deal i ran across using the search button. Im sure there is plenty of guys on here that could list everything made by everybody in the world and thats cool i would like to know ways to go about it too.

CrashAction55
09-23-2009, 04:16 PM
471 posts with the word "gude" in them.

ok man point made. I was just telling some guys on here that dt race some stuff they havnt heard about and i know they havnt because i pm them about cars alot and i know their situation and ideas they have. Some of them havnt had a dirt car all that long just helping out.

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SeRiousZX2
09-24-2009, 09:22 AM
No shit thats for the the dirt track package when u tell him its for a dirt track car he will make the had a higher compresion head with more agressive cams for dirt track racing which happens to be the type of thread ur in. So go on with ur street car and ur street car sense of thinking and try to impress sombody else. WTF

All the heads he sells are high compression. Every single head head he sells is 10.5:1. The "custom" regrinded stock cams he sales with the kits are weak, very weak. For the $1600 bones you will get his weakest kit. Period. You are not talking to someone that knows little about Gude. I have have spent hours even days talking to Bill and Michael Gude. Hell, they were 2 days from a lawsuit from me at one point.

SeRiousZX2
09-24-2009, 09:28 AM
and who would install all new cams port a head and leave the car untuned youngster.


and when we get 170 hp for 1600 hell will freeze and pigs would fly and i would take ur mom for a ride in it. youngster

Here you go again talking out your ass. How do you think I know it was near a 30 whp gain? Let me break it down for you. When you dyno, you ALWAYS do a base # run. All of my Gude products were installed and then a base dayno run was performed. You have to start from somewhere to show where you need improvements. Then AFTER that run SCT was added and it was tuned by one of the best SCT tuners in the nation. After it was tuned I ended with a 43 whp gain over stock.

And now you know the rest of the story, young grasshopper.

SeRiousZX2
09-24-2009, 09:32 AM
Ive been on here for 2 months and havnt heard about a gude head package ne the only thing ive heard about was a gude 421 header and they said they was hard to find.

Look who is wrong again. Gude has NEVER made a 4-2-1 header. They have only made a 4-1 header. So keep trying to advertise thier products even though you don't crap about them.

A little know fact that most people don't know: Gude produced a front strut bar for the ZX2 as well.

Happy motoring.

CrashAction55
09-24-2009, 11:27 AM
So keep trying to advertise thier products even though you don't crap about them.
Happy motoring.
Ha ha well maybe u should know all the facts urself old timer. All im saying is when i talked to bill he said his heads was 10 6 1 compression for cars u run on the street. But if u let him know that its going into a STRICLY TRACK CAR he will make it a 11 8 1 compression head and the cams he regrinds will be more agressive than the 2 he regrinds for the street cars. And as for the weak cams i seen his so called weak cams hit the rev limiter at 8500 rpms about 10 times from the middle of a straight away to the turn 3 and turns 1, for 20 laps. THATS IN THE REV AT 8500 RPMS FOR 400 BAP BAPS give or take a few. Because a 14 year old kid was driving a stinger car on a new track and didnt have enough gear. He still won.
HAPPY MOTORING AND IF U DONT BELIEVE ME CALL HIM URSELF AND ASK. IM DONE TELLING U. OH AND THE 14 YEAR OLD KID RACED 2 TIMES A WEEK AND WON DAMN NEAR EVERY RACE.

SeRiousZX2
09-24-2009, 01:35 PM
I don't need to talk to him. ANY company can make a head pnped to your specs. But that will cost more money. You came in advertising that you get all this for $1600. I know for a fact that the $1600 set up is a 10.5:1 head, thier entry level regrind ford cams, and a tb. If you want anything "better" or more aggressive he/they will charge you more.

Any cams that are regrids are weak.

That is all.

Young buck.

capitalcrew
09-24-2009, 01:49 PM
Your mouth just got peed in.

CrashAction55
09-24-2009, 02:25 PM
I don't need to talk to him. ANY company can make a head pnped to your specs. But that will cost more money. You came in advertising that you get all this for $1600. I know for a fact that the $1600 set up is a 10.5:1 head, thier entry level regrind ford cams, and a tb. If you want anything "better" or more aggressive he/they will charge you more.

Any cams that are regrids are weak.

That is all.

Young buck.

nope the price for him to do a 11 8 1 head with aggressive cams andeverything was 1550 and i had to pay shipping so it will be around 1600 ol timer and the cams are strong enough for em to hold up to dirttrack racing which is never going below 4000 rpm an running itto the rev which his isat 8500 rpm. And the car that the kid was driving is now in its 3rd year and still busting checkers at every track the car hits. And we race from late march till early december here that is lot of proving ground for some weak cams.

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CrashAction55
09-24-2009, 02:27 PM
I don't need to talk to him. ANY company can make a head pnped to your specs. But that will cost more money. You came in advertising that you get all this for $1600. I know for a fact that the $1600 set up is a 10.5:1 head, thier entry level regrind ford cams, and a tb. If you want anything "better" or more aggressive he/they will charge you more.

Any cams that are regrids are weak.

That is all.

Young buck.

nope the price for him to do a 11 8 1 head with aggressive cams andeverything was 1550 and i had to pay shipping so it will be around 1600 ol timer like i said call and ask. and the cams are strong enough for em to hold up to dirttrack racing which is never going below 4000 rpm an running itto the rev which his is at 8500 rpm. And the car that the kid was driving is now in its 3rd year and still busting checkers at every track the car hits. And we race from late march till early december here that is lot of proving ground for some weak cams.

CrashAction55
09-24-2009, 02:30 PM
I don't need to talk to him. ANY company can make a head pnped to your specs. But that will cost more money. You came in advertising that you get all this for $1600. I know for a fact that the $1600 set up is a 10.5:1 head, thier entry level regrind ford cams, and a tb. If you want anything "better" or more aggressive he/they will charge you more.

Any cams that are regrids are weak.

That is all.

Young buck.

oh and thats for complete head cam valves springs and so on with tb and a gude 4,1 header for 1550 and we pay shipping.




and i think thats leaves a dribble for capitol's chin

joshalabama
09-24-2009, 02:31 PM
Ugh this thread is retarded.

SeRiousZX2
09-24-2009, 03:00 PM
Ugh this thread is retarded.

Winner winner chicken dinner.

I'll just let the new guy realize the kit isn't what Bill makes it seem.

joshalabama
09-24-2009, 10:35 PM
Winner winner chicken dinner.

I'll just let the new guy realize the kit isn't what Bill makes it seem.

True dat, it is a good head though. The turbo kit i've heard of issues but i have to say I'm very pleased with what i'm running.

CrashAction55
09-25-2009, 04:38 AM
im def gonna try the head out.
im stoked about it bro.

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CrashAction55
09-25-2009, 04:50 AM
Serious zx2 u r right about a regrind being weaker than a cam thay hasnt been welded
on. Any time u heat metal to 8000 or so %'s its going to be weaker. But ive done alot of searching and dont know of ne one who will build the cams as big as he is straight from a factory without regrinding.If u know some place that does link it up for us please.

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AZN_ZX2
09-25-2009, 05:03 AM
All the heads he sells are high compression. Every single head head he sells is 10.5:1. The "custom" regrinded stock cams he sales with the kits are weak, very weak. For the $1600 bones you will get his weakest kit. Period. You are not talking to someone that knows little about Gude. I have have spent hours even days talking to Bill and Michael Gude. Hell, they were 2 days from a lawsuit from me at one point.

Why was there almost a lawsuit?

SeRiousZX2
09-25-2009, 07:45 AM
Serious zx2 u r right about a regrind being weaker than a cam thay hasnt been welded
on. Any time u heat metal to 8000 or so %'s its going to be weaker. But ive done alot of searching and dont know of ne one who will build the cams as big as he is straight from a factory without regrinding.If u know some place that does link it up for us please.

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ZXTuner cams are better. Rob will make you any spec cams you want.

CrashAction55
09-25-2009, 09:27 AM
is rob regrindin his?

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SeRiousZX2
09-25-2009, 09:33 AM
Why was there almost a lawsuit?

Because it took him almost a year to give me back my core deposit ($500). He requires that you send your core to him within 30 days. I sent it in 10. He always has excuses when I called or never answered my emails. I even told him that he could just send me $300 in products instead. He said no. Then after 6 more phone calls and countless emails from Iraq, I got it. I was leaving Iraq in 2 days and had alreadymade up my mind that once I got home I was sueing. But he made it.

SeRiousZX2
09-28-2009, 11:42 AM
is rob regrindin his?

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Last I heard they weren't.