Progress Springs

[WickedZ]

Am I the only one that prefers Progress over everything else?

[TTFOWIA]

definitely.

lawl.

[WickedZ]

damn you haha

[WickedZ]

well if I go Z again, Im sticking with progress

[TTFOWIA]

you should try dropzones first, they're even cheaper and lower! :P

[WickedZ]

yeah but when you throw on a extreme kit, progress already sits low which makes it hard to drive on some roads. I loved the overall handling

[TTFOWIA]

well, I live in Quebec. so you can't even teach me what "bad roads" are... lmao...

[zx2vt]

Last year, I was leaning toward Progress, but I found a killer deal on H&R's so I got those instead. I'll probably give Progress a try within the next few months though.

[vega]

Am I the only one that prefers Progress over everything else?


Why do you prefer them ??

[powder]

I've only owned the Progress springs and had no problems with them. I liked them a lot and will get them again when i get another ZX2.

[zxtwou2]

i've driven zx2's with almost all kinds of springs. i've driven on H&R, eibach, sprint, progress, and megan. i haven't ridden on GC or dropzones. of the ones i've driven on...H&R were the stiffest, eibach were the most fitting for the car, sprint were lowest, but fairly soft, progress were alright, good for driving on the street, and megan were bouncy.

[TTFOWIA]

I have driven cars that were on H&R, eibach, progress and I have ridden in cars that were on dropzones, sprint. H&R are stiff, but they don't work that well in corners, eibach are not too stiff in normal driving, but when you push them they are AMAZING and kill any other drop in curves (except for the dropzones). sprint are complete rubbish and progress are not good IMO. for the ride height AND performance, the dropzones are amazing. 1.8 drop + progressive spring rate + stiff in normal use > even more in cornering.

[powder]

Cars or ZX2's? Completely different... cuz ZX2's aren't cars, they're more like a pissed off go cart.

[TTFOWIA]

zx2s. only one of them was a 4dr escort 98

[WickedZ]

Cars or ZX2's? Completely different... cuz ZX2's aren't cars, they're more like a pissed off go cart.

yeah cuz, on my 95 tsi talon, koni struts and H&R springs were my best combo.


but zxtwou2: Have you tryed intrax springs yet for the Z? They are suppose to be the LOWEST drop of springs you can get. My buddy has em and wow.

[Texas Tracer]

I have Progress w/ S/R's and have no complaints. Had them for 3 years.

[TTFOWIA]

^^ tried something else?

[krux]

Dont worry i like my progress of what I have seen for drops and such. They are great springs just a little harsh ride then i would want typically. Yet i dont care since i dont drive the car that often for it to make a problem for me

[TranceZ]

I got sprints. I love the drop 2" all around.

[CJW]

I got a full s/r setup for about 100 bucks. And I picked up a set of intrax springs a couple weeks back for 25 bucks. Those intrax springs also came with interior carpet, rear deck cover, B pillar plastic, and carbontech shift and ebrake boots.

So another 180 and I will have 2 full assemblies for about 305 bucks.

eibach for the red car and intrax for the 98. I wouldn't have bought intrax otherwise. It would have been eibach or h&r or real full body coilovers

[powder]

Actually, i've always wondered what the intrax are like. Maybe i'll try them out. Lemme know how you like them CJ.

[WickedZ]

Actually, i've always wondered what the intrax are like. Maybe i'll try them out. Lemme know how you like them CJ.

I rode in a my buddies Z with the intrax springs. It was a nice ride a bit stiffer

[Georonimo]

Last year, I was leaning toward Progress, but I found a killer deal on H&R's so I got those instead. I'll probably give Progress a try within the next few months though.

I would be interested in the H&R's if you decide to sell them. I'm currently running a set on my Tracer wagon with S/R's and love the way they feel. I'm now looking for a second set to put on my other wagon.

[CJW]

Intrax have a ride very similiar to stock. Not a very good performance spring. But I'll let you know more when I actually use them on my car

[5spdzx2]

you should try dropzones first, they're even cheaper and lower! :P

Progress springs drop 1.8 all around, i was under the impression that the dropzones went 1.8 as well. There both progressive rate, so i doubt theres much different but i cant say for certain being ive never ridden on them. Does anyone have pictures of both?

[ImCrazy]

Id like to try some dropzones.. I have eibach and they handle great but I hate the small drop.

[ImCrazy]

Oh and Eibach is too stiff for my liking on a daily basis but performance takes precident over comfort, the eibachs suck on bumpy roads, however most highways they are kick ass, lane changes at high speeds are so easy.

[Tedmx22]

So dropzones are the absolute best for corning? Are you placing them as an even tie when you say the eibachs are AMAZING?

[TTFOWIA]

Oh and Eibach is too stiff for my liking on a daily basis but performance takes precident over comfort, the eibachs suck on bumpy roads, however most highways they are kick ass, lane changes at high speeds are so easy.

you, sir, are crazy. the eibachs are super comfy. especially when compared to the dropzones which also handles like crazy.

So dropzones are the absolute best for corning? Are you placing them as an even tie when you say the eibachs are AMAZING?

there is not even a comparison to make. the dropzones a so much more aggressive.

[CJW]

So dropzones are the absolute best for corning? Are you placing them as an even tie when you say the eibachs are AMAZING?

The stiffest springs to my knowledge are the h&r springs.

[Tedmx22]

The stiffest springs to my knowledge are the h&r springs.

So do you have knowledge of; and can differentiate between the Eibachs and Dropzones? Did you gain this "knowledge" of the H&R from own personal experience or read/heard it somewhere? Unless you have that device that mounts to the windshield that Motorweek uses, it's extremely hard to go be feel alone.

[powder]

So do you have knowledge of; and can differentiate between the Eibachs and Dropzones? Did you gain this "knowledge" of the H&R from own personal experience or read/heard it somewhere? Unless you have that device that mounts to the windshield that Motorweek uses, it's extremely hard to go be feel alone.

I would venture to say that he's going off of the spring rates for each product.

[zxtwou2]

the absolute stiffest would be a custom spring rate from Ground Control..which you can order right off their site at any rate you like. the second stiffest would be the H&R...based off spring rate, BTW.

[ZX2guy19]

I like my progress. A bit rough on the road, but the drop is PERFECT, and if my tires didn't suck dick, they would be great handling.

[TTFOWIA]

based off spring rate maybe, but I know for sure the H&R are way behind the dropzones in cornering... the lateral stiffness is not good at all with them...

[zxtwou2]

the what?

seriously, WTF are you smoking...and why are you doubting that the H&R's are better than the cheap DZ's? do you know anything about suspension? suspension geometry...spring rate...anything? would you mind explaing how a softer spring will handle better than the H&R. i agree..too stiff is bad...but H&R is far from too stiff.

[TTFOWIA]

by lateral stiffness I mean the H&R will let the car bounce from side to side compared to the DZs

have you even tried the DZs? I tried both. and Ill even say the Eibachs are better than the H&Rs... yes they are stiffer (bouncing wise), but they do NOT keep the car straight in cornering.

[Tedmx22]

Guys, this is great! So much info to chew on, it's going to be tough choosing in between these springs. You all have such good arguments.

[zxtwou2]

by lateral stiffness I mean the H&R will let the car bounce from side to side compared to the DZs

have you even tried the DZs? I tried both. and Ill even say the Eibachs are better than the H&Rs... yes they are stiffer (bouncing wise), but they do NOT keep the car straight in cornering.


which is why most of the focus guys i've talked to about suspension setups in autoX...that compete nationally...use H&R instead of cheap ebay springs, right? how can H&R bounce sideways? did you know...that there is a rod, connecting the bottom spring perch to the top one? it's the strut!!! amazing...if the spring was allowing the car to bounce sideways...i guess that strut rod is made of the same rubber as my pencil eraser! are you sure it wasn't soft sidewalled, fairly tall profile tires that made you "bounce sideways"?

[TTFOWIA]

no way, the tires were falken azenis

[zxtwou2]

then how do you figure the springs were allowing lateral movement while tied together with the strut piston...which if bent would prohibit the suspenion from working well at all.

[TTFOWIA]

ok, let me explain it an other way. go on the side of your car, and push it laterally by hand just where the suspension is. repeat with an other car with the other suspension. compare.

[Georonimo]

ok, let me explain it an other way. go on the side of your car, and push it laterally by hand just where the suspension is. repeat with an other car with the other suspension. compare.

The springs have nothing to do with this. Sidewall height/stiffness would be the biggest factor in why your car moves side to side, followed by suspension bushing.

[zx2vt]

ok, let me explain it an other way. go on the side of your car, and push it laterally by hand just where the suspension is. repeat with an other car with the other suspension. compare.
When you say "laterally", what exactly are you referring to? Pushing from the top of the car, to compress the strut and spring? Or, pushing from the side of the car?

[zx2loon]

Progress springs are actually really nice springs. I travel highway alot and the ride isn't as bumpy as other Z's I have rode in with different springs. The handleing is wonderful for street driving but I'm sure it could use a little improvement if you were track driving.....

I love my Progress springs.....:rocknana:

[TTFOWIA]

from the side... and whatever, I tried them both, and I can tell the DZs are better.

[Blue ZX2]

Hate to break it to ya TT but if you push it from the side, the only real thing that would move will be the side walls of the tires. the suspension will move a lil but not noticeably.

[TTFOWIA]

I'd have to show you... its not 100% from the side, its from the side, but also pushing down a little bit. whatever, as I said, I may not be able to explain it in details, but from the feeling, DZs are better.

[zxtuner98]

I love the handling with my eibachs. The drop is decent on the stock 14's i have but i woudelnt mind slightly lower. With all kinds of ES shit and a 21mm rsb this car does handle like its on rails. Function over form.

[Blue ZX2]

I think im gunna say fukk it and get GC coil overs. Be done with it all.

[zxtwou2]

I think im gunna say fukk it and get GC coil overs. Be done with it all.

atta boy...that way you get whatever spring rate you want, and you can adjust the height...which comes in handy here in IL.

[Blue ZX2]

atta boy...that way you get whatever spring rate you want, and you can adjust the height...which comes in handy here in IL.

Yup yup, if there is one thing we have alot of in IL its flat land!!! Which sucks for my motorcycle.

And you cant get diff/replacement coils for the GC kits for $60!!

[zxtwou2]

true...so you can have really stiff ones for summer..and nice soft ones for the winter when the roads crumble to a pile of rubble.


it'd be nice, though...if the springs are too stiff/not stiff enough to just spend 60 for a bit higher/lower spring rate if you need to.

[Blue ZX2]

Yup yup and they are Eibach!! so thats purty pimp. Now I either need to A: find a manual tranny. or B: find a maunal ZX2 and purchase and put all the junk on that one and sell mine off.

[zxtuner98]

I almost bought GC's, but i didnt. I cant remember why lol. Probally price.

[zxtwou2]

i had a set of them...but sold them and kept my sprints. i needed the money. i'll have them again, though...and this time, they are going on and the sprints will be sold :ropenana: