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Shadowen925
05-15-2008, 09:46 PM
I'm a real big noob to turbo's. I have a friend that is going to sell me a turbo with an intercooler, oil radiator and parts for a I4 mustang header for a nice deal. What else am I going to need besides piping and gauges? I know I need a chip, but don't know what one.
I don't have the brand of the turbo as it is buried his garage.

Lastly Is there some kind of a guide I can use to install this. (I have 3 good car friends. 2 are unofficial mechanics and 1 is an unofficial machinist. LOL)

Thanks.

capitalcrew
05-15-2008, 09:49 PM
Wastegate, BOV, MAF, injectors, piping, turbo, intercooler, oil lines, manifold, downpipe, couplers..

Shadowen925
05-15-2008, 09:56 PM
Alright, we have a list started. Time to start looking for the parts.

(does the ... mean more?)

capitalcrew
05-15-2008, 10:04 PM
That is pretty much all of it. You'll need tuning, like you said, and gauges. A lot of time. A spare engine for when you blow yours, which won't take toooooo long. Everyone blows it up eventually.

;)

scort2498
05-15-2008, 10:06 PM
except zx2fast. i wouldn;t say blown engine really just blown tranny...
prolly a pg for the tranny and a new clutch kt have fun hope u have 1000-1500 to blow.

Shadowen925
05-15-2008, 10:11 PM
well I have the turbo, intercooler, oil radiator header parts for under $200
How much more do you think I will need to spend? And is it really that dangerous to the engine?

capitalcrew
05-15-2008, 10:37 PM
Of course it is.

Beodude123
05-15-2008, 10:45 PM
So you are going to take on this project knowing next to nothing about turbos? Good luck with that...

Shadowen925
05-15-2008, 10:53 PM
So you are going to take on this project knowing next to nothing about turbos? Good luck with that...

hoping from lots of help form my neighbor. lol

Is this a good idea, this car has to last me driving 15 mins to and from college for 2 years and then maybe a year or 2 after that. The reason I want to put it in is because I got a friend with an 03 tiburon and the friend thats selling me it is a real mustang fanatic. I want to be able to play cars with them. lol
Oh, my car has about 120K miles on it and the owner before me was a maintenance freak so its in good condition.

Would it be more benifistial to go the way of bolt-ons and if so what all should I look at getting and or what should I get first?

Thanks guy's keep posting

scort2498
05-16-2008, 12:15 AM
lemme get this stragiht ur gonna use a header from an inline 4 mustang?... let me know how that works out.
and prolly another 1000

ZX2Fast
05-16-2008, 01:04 AM
Ha, yeah, my engine is factory and pushing over 170,000 miles on a base tune for two years. I don't get it, the engine just won't die.

scort2498
05-16-2008, 01:44 AM
u have to boost more than 2 psi i think.

powder
05-16-2008, 01:58 AM
hoping from lots of help form my neighbor. lol

Is this a good idea, this car has to last me driving 15 mins to and from college for 2 years and then maybe a year or 2 after that. The reason I want to put it in is because I got a friend with an 03 tiburon and the friend thats selling me it is a real mustang fanatic. I want to be able to play cars with them. lol
Oh, my car has about 120K miles on it and the owner before me was a maintenance freak so its in good condition.

Would it be more benifistial to go the way of bolt-ons and if so what all should I look at getting and or what should I get first?

Thanks guy's keep posting

LOL. No it's not a good idea if you want it to be reliable. Especially being a n00b to boost. It's a dangerous thing for engines. Next thing you know you'll be coming on here and asking us "Why didn't you tell me my engine would blow up?!?! It's all you guy's fault!" lol

00EscortZx2
05-16-2008, 02:00 AM
u have to boost more than 2 psi i think.

LOL

Yeah man I'm about $400+ in to my turbo project. I still need injectors, MAF, Pipes, and a Tune. I've still got about another $600 to go.

Shadowen925
05-16-2008, 06:26 AM
I'm not sure If I'll be using the mustang header. I haven't seen it yet, he just wanted to throw it in.
And Powder, the first few posts I got were "you'll shoot your eye out" type of posts. lol

ZX2Fast
05-16-2008, 07:22 AM
I'm pushing 8 psi.

Shadowen925
05-16-2008, 07:51 AM
I'm pushing 8 psi.

In your personal opinon, should I go for the turbo at like 6-8psi for my daily driver. I really dont have another car if this one dies but I can have it down for a while to install it. That is no prob.

OR should I just get bolt on's

capitalcrew
05-16-2008, 08:06 AM
IMO, bolt ons.

ilarson007
05-16-2008, 08:13 AM
I'm pretty sure the Mustang header won't bolt to our engine... You'll need a modified Focus header (yeah, ask someone else what that is/where to buy, etc, that's just the only manifold I've ever seen on turbo builds on ZX2's).

ilarson007
05-16-2008, 08:28 AM
But for DD, bolt-on's wins, cause there's not a possibility to blow up your engine. My neighbor has an old s10 (like 88 or s/t)... it's on its third engine. The second launched #4 through the block..... and those engines were stock.

gogetrzx2
05-16-2008, 09:01 AM
if you dont have a spare car i would suggest you not to turbo the z. when it comes to parts and buget everyone is different. if you want to slap something together over the weekend using cheap shit and sparing money were it count on things such as tunning. chances are it wont last long. if your serious and nothing is going to stop you. save money, study the factors and learn as much as you can about turbos how they work. find a good dyno tunning facility near you with a tunner that is confident that he can tune your car. be expected to pay a good ammount of money there.400-700 is what im looking at with some custom fab in there somewhere. i have been planing,researching, and shopping for over a year now on my build. and these are the facts. our cars have 2 major weak links in the drivetrain as it is, turbo just increases the chance of theses breaking 1.the connecting rods 2. the crappy diff in the tranny. and finally, stay in good grace with the guys on this site that are turbod already. zx2 fast,smooth,pimp,straitupmad,ect. they have been a great deal of help in my build. good luck

gt35r zx2
05-16-2008, 09:38 AM
Well just plan on about 2k for your turbo setup , if i was you would save my money and buy a used one, btw its hard to find a nice kit , also just bcuz your noob doent mean we as a team cant help get your car turbod and kinda reliable, also i have turbod 2 zx2s and the 3rd was done just need to tune , so I know a few thinks to turboing a zx2, it will be a pretty penny to do it the right wy

scort2498
05-16-2008, 10:36 AM
I know fast i was just messing with you.

scortched
05-16-2008, 10:59 AM
put all that stuff on there and you will have at least 900 whp... i say go for it. jk. do some homework dude, and i would be a little reluctant to install a turbo some guy has burried in his garage.

Beodude123
05-16-2008, 11:18 AM
Dude, if you are that worried about reliability, going turbo isn't the best choice. If you had a spare car, spare parts etc, yeah. But since you don't....

Maybe if you fully built the engine, and did all the guts, kept the pressure low, and had a conservative tune, it would be okay. But you don't sound like the person that would do that. Plus, there is always the tranny wild card. You never know when that will die, especially with a lot of power going to the wheels.

straightupmad
05-16-2008, 01:53 PM
I am going to have to agree with the majority here. If you really need this car to last you through college and maybe a few years after, I would not go with the turbo idea.

You may be able to piece together a kit for cheap (especially with the deals you already have in the works), but the cost of going cheap is the uncertainty of the quality of the parts. For example, you do not even know the brand, model, or specs of the turbo you will be receiving, so I doubt you know the amount of miles on the turbo, the amount of shaft play, and the condition of the turbine and compressor blades.

While a few have already posted the other major items you need to make a "full turbo kit", there are numerous miscellaneous parts that go into a kit/turbo build. The itemized parts and price list I have for my turbo kit has roughly 36 items, and even then, one of the items is miscellaneous costs for items such has bolts, sealant, gaskets, etc. Just keep this in mind.

If adding a turbo is something you would really like to attempt, I highly suggest you research, read, and ask questions. Given your situation and needs of the car, there needs to be some careful planning on your part. Just to give you an idea, I spent 2-2.5 years searching the web/forums, reading books, and attending classes as an engineering student. Out of that time, I spent a year saving and buying parts to ensure I knew exactly what was going in the car. The results of this effort was a turbo kit that installed rather quickly, and a car that started immediately after installation and ran great. Note that the engine did fail after a year and a half after "playing" too hard with it one night.

Depending on the turbo size, amount of boost you run, and how you drive, putting a turbo on a car can be fun and "reliable".

As I said before, if this is something you want to attempt, research and do not be afraid to ask questions, especially questions pertaining to the ZX2 specifically. Just don't ask questions that can easily be answered by a search engine.

ZX2guy19
05-17-2008, 07:58 AM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/chopperman19/TurboProject106.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/chopperman19/TurboProject105.jpg

$1400 and it's yours. All the work already done, everything you'll need.