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zxtwou2
05-30-2008, 12:02 AM
I've been doing side jobs for Teamzx2.com now for over a year, now. I offer these services to this site, becaues i've been here 8 years, and it's my way of giving back something to the site. i offer these services by the batch, and at a flat rate much less than i offer to anyone else, as a way of giving you guys a good deal on powdercoated parts.

Parts i can coat: anything that can conduct electricity (and even some plastics) that can withstand 400*F. also, as of right now, i only have an old kitchen oven to bake the parts, so any parts coated must fit inside. i'll post the inside dimentions later. valve covers fit nicely in there...but i'm not sure about things as big as rims or some intakes.

how much does it cost: $40 bucks does one pound of powder..which coats a few things, like valve cover and rad brackets, or brake calipers. a few components can usually be done with just one pound. PM me with any questions as to surface area, and how many coats i may need to do due to surface imperfections, etc. for $60 bucks, you can add either metal flake or a candy coat. the price includes shipping the part back to you, also...so no additional charges.

what needs to be prepped: i prefer the parts be stripped/sanded down to bare metal. i do not have the means to do chemical soaking or sandblasting right now, so the more you can get the part prepped, the faster i can get it back to you. i can do final touches, like grinding down bumps or getting rid of pits in the metal, and grinding down the casting marks. i do require any powdercoat, like the stuff on the stock v/c's be stripped off.

what's the turn around: i do most covers within a week of recieving them. i live in an apartment, so my oven and equipment are in my dad's barn...so sometimes i have to wait a couple of days to coat. also, sometimes the powder can be held up in the mail..some of it has to be shipped as hazmat. also, i need to do small prepwork usually..like iron phosphate primer treatments for softer metals and such.

what are the colors: i'll link up the charts of colors from the place i buy my powder. some of the colors have links below them to view previously done parts to give you a better idea on the final product.

http://www.caswellplating.com/powder/powder_colors.html
http://www.caswellplating.com/powder/powder_colors2.html

any questions..post, or PM me.

ImCrazy
05-30-2008, 05:23 AM
would a pound do a valve cover and my caliper brackets?

zxtwou2
05-30-2008, 05:24 AM
yes...it'll cover a few items. that's why i run the prices by the batch, instead of by the peice...because a pound can do a few things...and if there's left over powder, why not do a few at a time? :D

ImCrazy
05-30-2008, 03:34 PM
sweet lemme see what I can dig up as far as a spare so i can send you mine out in the next month or so.

Fordboy
06-01-2008, 09:30 PM
can you do iceman intakes?

capitalcrew
06-01-2008, 09:31 PM
No, it is impossible to powdercoat an iceman intake.

Fordboy
06-01-2008, 09:32 PM
bc of the plastic? or what?

capitalcrew
06-01-2008, 09:39 PM
Yes, the plastic will melt when you bake it.

Fordboy
06-01-2008, 09:41 PM
can that plastic take up to 400* or no?

capitalcrew
06-01-2008, 09:42 PM
Do you want to try it and find out? I am sure it can take heat, but sustained heat like that I am sure will pose a problem for it.

ImCrazy
06-01-2008, 09:59 PM
Tim can asnwer this question but im pretty sure its a no, just paint the sucker prep it right and you will be fine.

Fordboy
06-01-2008, 10:05 PM
yea i know that the only thing is that if i would have tim powdercoat the vc red i would want the red iceman to be the same red as on the vc

zxtwou2
06-01-2008, 10:37 PM
from what i remember *reaches back to summer of 2001*...there were a lot of people having problems with their iceman intakes warping just from normal use. it's made of silicone..which is what i use to mask off holes when i coat because it does not allow powder to stick to it. even if heat tollerance was an issue...it would be impossible to get the powder to electrostatically bond to the silicone. i wish i could though..a lot of people have asked me this same question.

zxtwou2
06-03-2008, 05:39 AM
something else was brought to my attention, as well....there were some imperfections with tom's valve cover. there were some really deep gouges in the cover...and if i'd taken them down, i would have seriously been taking 1/32nd of material off the cover...which would really thin it out. the gouges were most likely from a wire wheel. so when you prep...do NOT use a wire wheel! the scouring wheels for dremels are alright...but NOT wire wheels! the best way is to chemical soak it and wipe the coating away.

Fordboy
06-03-2008, 06:19 PM
hey does the 40 cover this:

if i had a jba sent to you and i sent a 98 vc to you
does that cover shipping for both back to me plus your powdercoating? also is it possible to powerdercoat a stock spark plug cover?

droptoutzx2
06-03-2008, 07:59 PM
are you kidding me.... he CANNOT powdercoat plastic that would include the sparkplug cover, also im not sure if his oven gets hot enough to do headers

droptoutzx2
06-03-2008, 08:27 PM
also if you got a sandblaster you would probably get more business

Fordboy
06-03-2008, 08:47 PM
I've been doing side jobs for Teamzx2.com now for over a year, now. I offer these services to this site, becaues i've been here 8 years, and it's my way of giving back something to the site. i offer these services by the batch, and at a flat rate much less than i offer to anyone else, as a way of giving you guys a good deal on powdercoated parts.

Parts i can coat: anything that can conduct electricity (and even some plastics) that can withstand 400*F. also, as of right now, i only have an old kitchen oven to bake the parts, so any parts coated must fit inside. i'll post the inside dimentions later. valve covers fit nicely in there...but i'm not sure about things as big as rims or some intakes.

how much does it cost: $40 bucks does one pound of powder..which coats a few things, like valve cover and rad brackets, or brake calipers. a few components can usually be done with just one pound. PM me with any questions as to surface area, and how many coats i may need to do due to surface imperfections, etc. for $60 bucks, you can add either metal flake or a candy coat. the price includes shipping the part back to you, also...so no additional charges.

what needs to be prepped: i prefer the parts be stripped/sanded down to bare metal. i do not have the means to do chemical soaking or sandblasting right now, so the more you can get the part prepped, the faster i can get it back to you. i can do final touches, like grinding down bumps or getting rid of pits in the metal, and grinding down the casting marks. i do require any powdercoat, like the stuff on the stock v/c's be stripped off.

what's the turn around: i do most covers within a week of recieving them. i live in an apartment, so my oven and equipment are in my dad's barn...so sometimes i have to wait a couple of days to coat. also, sometimes the powder can be held up in the mail..some of it has to be shipped as hazmat. also, i need to do small prepwork usually..like iron phosphate primer treatments for softer metals and such.

what are the colors: i'll link up the charts of colors from the place i buy my powder. some of the colors have links below them to view previously done parts to give you a better idea on the final product.

http://www.caswellplating.com/powder/powder_colors.html
http://www.caswellplating.com/powder/powder_colors2.html

any questions..post, or PM me.

this is why i asked about the spark plug cover

droptoutzx2
06-03-2008, 08:52 PM
that can conduct electricity and withstand 400*f which the plug cover can not

Fordboy
06-03-2008, 08:54 PM
yea i didnt know if it could or not i just thought since it sat on top of the vc, which gets pretty hot, then maybe it can withstand some heat just didnt know how much but thanks

zxtwou2
06-03-2008, 09:46 PM
hey does the 40 cover this:

if i had a jba sent to you and i sent a 98 vc to you
does that cover shipping for both back to me plus your powdercoating? also is it possible to powerdercoat a stock spark plug cover?

yes...i can coat all of that for 40, and it includes shipping back to you. i don't know about the spark plug cover yet...i have one i'm going to experiment with. i can coat it, it just won't be perfectly even. i can do plastics that can withstand the heat, and that will take the iron phosphate primer i use...which makes it semi-conductive (at least on the surface).

zxtwou2
06-03-2008, 09:48 PM
are you kidding me.... he CANNOT powdercoat plastic that would include the sparkplug cover, also im not sure if his oven gets hot enough to do headers

i just replied about the plastics...i can do plastics that will take the iron phosphate primer. the iceman is unique, in that it's silicone, and cannot withstand the heat without warping.

also, i have done headers. the high temp powder i use is a silicone/TGIC base, and only needs to be at 450*F to melt and cure. after it cures, it is resilient to 1500*F. if you do not believe me, PM CkretAjint and ask how his JBA header is holding up.

droptoutzx2
06-03-2008, 10:04 PM
its possible i didnt know you were using the high temp powder, i used to work at a powder coatin shop and they had a industrial oven and refused to do them cause they didnt want to take a chance of it coming off with heat

zxtwou2
06-03-2008, 10:16 PM
also if you got a sandblaster you would probably get more business

1. it's not a business..this is a hobby i do at a lower cost than a business would simply because i'm NOT making profit off of it. what i charge usually doesn't even cover material and shipping costs...and i end up picking up what's left on that. the ONE time i cleared a 10 dollar profit..i put it back into the coater, buying cleaing supplies.

2. i cannot afford the blaster i want (cabinet blaster with downdraft)..and have more important things to worry about right now. it's not too big of a deal to ask people to prep their parts. the two major powdercoating places around me do NOT do prep work. also..sandblasters eat valve covers alive...magnesium is pretty soft...and would have to be cobbed or glassed...which take a lot of time. it's easier for people to chemical soak their parts and wipe off the factory coating.

droptoutzx2
06-03-2008, 10:50 PM
what i meant about the sandblaster is i have no access to a blaster besides buying one and i wouldnt mind having some parts done as in all of my suspension parts,

zxtwou2
06-03-2008, 11:13 PM
about 90% of that has nothing to do with this thread of section.

you can powdercoat almost anything, as long as it can take the heat. like i said, i use a chem soak to treat the plastic with iron phosphate, which makes the surface just conductive electrostatically to hold the powder on evenly. the conductivity of a material only ensures an even coat..it has NOTHING to do with the powder sticking to the part after it's been baked on and cured.

from another website:

Actually there is not much you can't powder coat if you have the correct equipment, I guess plastics like polycarbonate and nylon are the easiest to coat. I have also been reading about coating wood and found that most of the new office furniture is powder coated. From what I understand moisture is added to MDF to conduct the current, and I’m sure the voltages are much higher.

Check out http://www.powdercoating.org/wood/content.htm

CkretAjint
06-07-2008, 01:31 PM
I had a few items powder coated by Tim. The entire experience was great I would totally do business with him again and intend to when I have more parts to powder coat.

I had a 98' valve cover, Roush intake, and JBA header all coated by him. I prepped the parts as much as I could and shipped them out. Tim went above and beyond to finish off the prep work I couldn't do. He even kept me informed on each step, sent a few in progress images and a speedy turn around time.

Here are some pictures:
Everything.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/212/526236491_46ddf96fcb_b.jpg

Intake close up.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1194/526236509_f7684becb7_b.jpg

Header close up.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/211/526236511_278a5b293a_b.jpg

Installed.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2278/1946462393_29bca06fb5_b.jpg

S/R
06-08-2008, 06:24 PM
as far as blasting a valve cover, i used poly media on brads and it barely touched the surface, more damage is done with a scotchbrite pad. stay away from aluiminum oxide, silicon carbide, play sand, and even glass. is use alum. oxide on my VC and it tore it up pretty bad, or as tim said, chem-strip it. but make sure its safe for mag some chemicals that are fine for aluminum will completly eat mag.

swedevil
06-09-2008, 06:26 PM
I want some parts done in lollypop blue (kandy).

Once I finish making my intake, I'll send that, a valve cover, some other mimor parts from the engine, and the 4 calipers. That's gonna run two lbs isn't it?

zxtwou2
06-09-2008, 10:58 PM
I want some parts done in lollypop blue (kandy).

Once I finish making my intake, I'll send that, a valve cover, some other mimor parts from the engine, and the 4 calipers. That's gonna run two lbs isn't it?

yeah...two pounds of powder, and one pound of kandy most likely...so i'd cut you a deal for 80.

ZX2guy19
06-11-2008, 11:19 AM
Here noob:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/chopperman19/Newparts011.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/chopperman19/Newparts013.jpg

swedevil
06-11-2008, 05:14 PM
yeah...two pounds of powder, and one pound of kandy most likely...so i'd cut you a deal for 80.

wow. that's really good! I'll deffinately start getting parts together one I get back from training!

zx2crazy
07-09-2008, 04:27 PM
how much for rims? just need a quote on 4 rims powdercoated black

Waterboy9000
07-09-2008, 04:27 PM
size?

zx2crazy
07-09-2008, 04:42 PM
dnt really know.
im buying a 96 240sx SE and i wanna powdercoat the wheels.
i wanna say 16's?

zxtwou2
07-09-2008, 10:47 PM
maybe next year i'll have an oven big enough to do wheels...but i'm still in the works of building one.

CraZx2ing
08-03-2008, 01:01 AM
I sent a PM about powdering a manifold. You still up and kickin'?

zxtwou2
08-03-2008, 06:05 AM
yup..was racin yesterday and prepping the car the few days before that...i'll respond later :elephant:

CraZx2ing
08-04-2008, 04:18 PM
You dah man!

pcolazx2
08-04-2008, 07:37 PM
I'll be contacting you soon as I find a box to ship my valve cover in. Woot!

blue_2001
09-03-2008, 07:21 PM
how much do i have to strip off. the guy that had it was paid to strip it and his job sucks

zxtuner98
09-03-2008, 07:27 PM
Tim does great work. He's been working on mine, which has been nothing but problems and he wont stop until he profects it. You couldnt ask for a better guy to do buisness with. I even offered him more money for his services and he woudlnt take it. The man even tried to refund my money AND re-do it. Which i didnt accept it back. Great guy. + bagillion.


blue: Strip as much off as you can. If you can, find a place to blast it. It goes way fast and makes your life and Tim's easier.

BlackEscortGT
09-03-2008, 09:39 PM
my stuff will be shipped tomorrow morning. I not saying what i want it to be a secret.

zxtwou2
09-03-2008, 09:46 PM
how much do i have to strip off. the guy that had it was paid to strip it and his job sucks

as much as you can...but if it's too problematic, i can see what i can do for you.

my stuff will be shipped tomorrow morning. I not saying what i want it to be a secret.

i'll watch the mail!

i have an update as well. now that i'm back on 3rd shift (i was on 1st for 7 weeks), i can use our powerwashing booth. this is good news for those of you who cannot strip these things, and want me to do it. so to cover the cost of the stripper, i'll be charging 10 bucks to strip these for a short time. i don't know how much longer i will have the resources necessary....but i'll try to keep this option available as long as possible. so if you really would rather i do it...i will try a few and see how it goes. what i do is use aircraft thinner and pressure wash it off after letting it sit.