Guy in a SRT-4 ask me if I want to run them...

[ZX2Fast]

I say yes. I guess he spotted the FMIC while we were filling up on gas. We start from a 20mph roll. On the 3rd honk, we go. I get about a fender jump on him and then 2nd grinds and it won't go in. Dammit, I guess I should expect that since I put this tranny together from 4 different trannies. Anyway, while I'm trying to coax this car into 2nd he puts 3 cars on me. Once I get into 2nd, he stops pulling. In 3rd I start to pull back a little bit and we shut down at 85mph. He gets next to me and says, "Not bad, much better then I thought it would do." I didn't tell him that I missed 2nd and that my PCM reset once I got it into gear. (different story) I tell him it is just an Escort with 170,000 miles on it. He says it did really good and he didn't think I would be able to keep up. Not too many SRT-4 guys are cool like that. Maybe the next time I see him, I won't miss 2nd. He did say he was modded but he wouldn't tell me how.

[corbygasm]

illz race ya brad hahahah

[Beodude123]

Yeah, it sucks you missed a shift, but it sucks even more to make excuses, even if they are valid...

[ZX2Fast]

illz race ya brad hahahah

Hey! You actually remembered who you were talking to this time. lol

[corbygasm]

Hey! You actually remembered who you were talking to this time. lol

how could i forget the guy who missed 2nd. hahaha:upsidenana:

[inis]

pcm story or ban.

[ZX2Fast]

My PCM resets at random. Seems it resets more often (like everytime I'm on the throttle) when I datalog. I know the PCM is resetting because I get a COMM FAIL from the datalog. I think I may have some EMF but last night I moved my battery to the passenger side of the trunk and found my ground was rusted. I think this bad connection could have caused this issue. It didn't reset today at all. Next time I go somewhere I'll datalog to see if it resets.

[gt35r zx2]

he would have got you pretty good in the top though , good race

[inis]

he would have got you pretty good in the top though , good race

maybe , maybe not. Gotta remember srt4's can't rev, zx2's can. That .4 lower liter's helps rev out. Also depends the other guys mods.

[pure]

zx2's don't really rev that high, especially if you don't have the proper work done for the better oil flow if it does rev high , it won't be for long.

[gt35r zx2]

those srt4s are torque monsters believe me it will put a zx2 down in the top , I had both , turbo zx2 after 130 start to slow down on there pull , as the srt4s pull pretty good to 150 , bt from a hundred on a zx2 isnt going to beat a srt4 with 8-10psi

[jdrzx2]

My PCM resets at random. Seems it resets more often (like everytime I'm on the throttle) when I datalog. I know the PCM is resetting because I get a COMM FAIL from the datalog. I think I may have some EMF but last night I moved my battery to the passenger side of the trunk and found my ground was rusted. I think this bad connection could have caused this issue. It didn't reset today at all. Next time I go somewhere I'll datalog to see if it resets.
This is the same problem I had when I drove my car out to Indiana to pay a visit to you, remember? We fixed the connector and eletrical taped it up so it wouldn't short from hitting my brake booster under acceleration.

[ZX2Fast]

Yeah, this is why I decided to reground the battery.

[ahhhhWHOA]

nice kill, new tranny time or whats up with that?

Kinda funny i was racing an SRT-4 the other night and it worked out opposite of your, his tranny went out, wouldnt let him shift or move when we got done, had to pull over and have his car towed LOL

[ZX2Fast]

No, I just shifted too fast to 2nd. It's never been easy to put in 2nd because it is made from 4 different transmissions.

As for the SRT-4 top end, I'm sure I can take one up top. Maybe they have more torque but how much are they making at 6500 rpm? Oh, let us not forget how the ZX2 has a very low drag coeffiecent.

[TheGhostInTheMachine]

ZX2's drag coefficient sucks.

[ZX2Fast]

Not really. The 98 Corvette is a .29, the ZX2 is a .33 and the SRT-4 is a .35.

[TheGhostInTheMachine]

.33 sucks. I never said the SRT-4 was any better. It's only when you get down to .30 and lower do you have anything do talk about.

[zxtwou2]

not much better at .32

http://www.modernracer.com/member/memberfeatures/carcutaways/vwgolfgtiinsides1.jpg

[autox_zx2]

^ O shit son, he did not just do that..........lol

[powder]

Go ahead Vit, praise your almight wonder rod for being at .30. What your next car needs to be though is a Prius at .26.

Oh and btw... why drag coefficient was brought into this is beyond me. A Ferrari F40 holds a .34 drag coefficient... can you beat that in the high end too?

[zxtwou2]

also note the pic i posted shows plaid seats in the vee-dub.

[zxtwou2]

Oh and btw... why drag coefficient was brought into this is beyond me. A Ferrari F40 holds a .34 drag coefficient... can you beat that in the high end too?

true....the cars would have to have equal weight and horsepower and be competing for highest top speed for that argument to come into play.

[ZX2Fast]

It was brought in because someone said that I couldn't beat the SRT-4 in a top end run because it is a torque monster. It doesn't make so much more power then I do that it can get to 150 any faster then I can because I have less drag to worry about.

[ZX2Fast]

Go ahead Vit, praise your almight wonder rod for being at .30. What your next car needs to be though is a Prius at .26.


His car isn't a .30, the Passat is. The Golf is a .32, sooo much better then the ZX2. I'm surprised that wasn't the magic 'anything to talk about' number he came up with.

[gt35r zx2]

[QUOTE=ZX2Fast;51290]It was brought in because someone said that I couldn't beat the SRT-4 in a top end run because it is a torque monster. It doesn't make so much more power then I do that it can get to 150 any faster then I can because I have less drag to worry about.[/

Well you should race one to 150 or so and see how you do , from a dig you can beat them 80 on I would bet it will start to pull you in. Also they dont need to rev to 6500 , at 6000 they do 160 , and your car at 6000 is at maybe 130 or so .

[TheGhostInTheMachine]

I don't remember even coming remotely close to mentioning my car. Way for everyone to get all butt hurt (even powder rofl) HAHAHAHA

[TheGhostInTheMachine]

His car isn't a .30, the Passat is. The Golf is a .32, sooo much better then the ZX2. I'm surprised that wasn't the magic 'anything to talk about' number he came up with.

Passat is .28, fyi.

PS: GTI > ZX2. Any year.

[powder]

His car isn't a .30, the Passat is. The Golf is a .32, sooo much better then the ZX2. I'm surprised that wasn't the magic 'anything to talk about' number he came up with.

No, i realize that. I was refering to the 350Z as that's the only reason vit said that .30 or lower is good.

[powder]

I don't remember even coming remotely close to mentioning my car. Way for everyone to get all butt hurt (even powder rofl) HAHAHAHA

I didn't get butt hurt. I was merely giving you a chance to mention your 350Z (insert vit's rock hard boner here).

[TheGhostInTheMachine]

I wasn't going to mention any car. hahaha

[inis]

Passat is .28, fyi.

PS: GTI > ZX2. Any year.

frame for frame , noes.

[TheGhostInTheMachine]

Point for point, frame for frame. Every aspect. GTI > ZX2.

[Escort Pimp]

those srt4s are torque monsters believe me it will put a zx2 down in the top , I had both , turbo zx2 after 130 start to slow down on there pull , as the srt4s pull pretty good to 150 , bt from a hundred on a zx2 isnt going to beat a srt4 with 8-10psi
I beat two SRT4's at the same time with 10psi well past 100

[zxtwou2]

Passat is .28, fyi.

PS: GTI > ZX2. Any year.

only if you are good driver....

1 472 Paulien, Dan 2000 Subaru Impreza 2.5RS Red 54.187


2 582 Oyer, Timothy 2001 Ford Escort Zx2 black 54.200

3 821 Pinkerton, James 2002 Honda Civic Si Hatch White 55.091

4 617 pickard, john 1996 volkswagen golf gti 2.0L black 55.634

5 457 Marchuk, Paul 2006 Acura RSX Blue 55.749

6 353 Damalerio, Brian Acura RSX 55.829

7 343 Freitas, Matt 1996 VW Golf black 57.308

http://www.scca-chicago.com/solo/2008/event1_class.html



damn..imagine that...my zx2 beat out a Gold GTI with two different drivers in it.

[TheGhostInTheMachine]

only if you are good driver....


GTI > ZX2.

[ZX2Fast]

Just keep telling yourself that. Even though it has lower reliability ratings then Chrystler and not one VW has as high of a rating as the last Escort platform. The G(od) T(hinks) you're an I(diot) got the next to last reliablity and value rating. Hell, that tC you owned was twice the car the GTI is. It was cheaper to. The ZX2 is a much better dollar value then any VW is. Hell, Ford has more % models at average and higher reliabiltiy then VW does. That is just sad.

As for the Passat being a .28, whatever one I looked up was listed as a .30. I don't remember what year it was.

[ZX2Fast]

[QUOTE=ZX2Fast;51290]It was brought in because someone said that I couldn't beat the SRT-4 in a top end run because it is a torque monster. It doesn't make so much more power then I do that it can get to 150 any faster then I can because I have less drag to worry about.[/

Well you should race one to 150 or so and see how you do , from a dig you can beat them 80 on I would bet it will start to pull you in. Also they dont need to rev to 6500 , at 6000 they do 160 , and your car at 6000 is at maybe 130 or so .

Next time I feel like going to jail I'll get a vid of me beating a SRT-4. They are bricks, I know I can beat one in a top speed run. I'm only making about 180whp, when I get it tuned I should be close to 200-210whp.

[ZX2Fast]

No one is getting butt-hurt. We just like to laugh at your ego.

[ChillinZX]

I'm starting to have problems with my chip becoming loose in the back of the ecu. I think I'm going to have to re-duct tape it back on.

[JimH]

I'm starting to have problems with my chip becoming loose in the back of the ecu. I think I'm going to have to re-duct tape it back on.

Toss the chip. Mine came loose all the time and it drove me to sell it. Get the X2 and flash it. You can thank me later.

[ChillinZX]

No thanks, I drove I think 800mi round trip to get my dynotuned chip from McNews automotive. And at the end of next year I will have to make the trip again to get it a final tune after my head project.

[TheGhostInTheMachine]

Just keep telling yourself that. Even though it has lower reliability ratings then Chrystler and not one VW has as high of a rating as the last Escort platform. The G(od) T(hinks) you're an I(diot) got the next to last reliablity and value rating. Hell, that tC you owned was twice the car the GTI is. It was cheaper to. The ZX2 is a much better dollar value then any VW is. Hell, Ford has more % models at average and higher reliabiltiy then VW does. That is just sad.

As for the Passat being a .28, whatever one I looked up was listed as a .30. I don't remember what year it was.

Rationalize it to yourself however you like. Doesn't change the fact, GTI > ZX2.

[ChillinZX]

I'd rather drive in a bullet then drive in a shoe.

[zxtwou2]

GTI > ZX2.

i think you are losing your reading comprehension....i more than whooped the asses of a GTI with two drivers each having at least one season of racing on me.

[ZX2Fast]

Give up, man. It doesn't matter what car it is, it is the best one because he is driving it. You know, the way all ricers think.

[KRUX]

zomg's vw is like da best

[TheGhostInTheMachine]

i think you are losing your reading comprehension....i more than whooped the asses of a GTI with two drivers each having at least one season of racing on me.

I never said anything about drivers. I simply stated GTI > ZX2. ZX2's have shit built quality, shit interior, shit for power, shit transmission, I can go on.

[Sir William]

I luv ya vit.... but... (Insert Vit's current car) > ZX2

[TheGhostInTheMachine]

I luv ya vit.... but... (Insert Vit's current car) > ZX2

Any car made after '98 > ZX2.

[random_hero]

...chevy avaeo?

[zxtwou2]

I never said anything about drivers. I simply stated GTI > ZX2. ZX2's have shit built quality, shit interior, shit for power, shit transmission, I can go on.

and dollar for dollar i'd rather have a zx2. i spent 11,300 with 6 miles on mine..how much was the GTI? as far as what the zx2 was built for...it's great...it's a budget car.

[ZX2Fast]

All this shit build and it still scores higher in long-term reliablility then most VW cars. I find that amusing.

[ChillinZX]

Look at JD Power and associates ratings for Quality. Ford is WAY higher in the ranks then VW is, I believe VW is 4th from the bottom?

[ZX2Fast]

I like Consumer Reports since they are non-profit and the survey's are from actual owners who wanted to buy those cars and drive them everyday. If they don't like them, that carries more weight for me then a so called 'expert' that drives it around a track a few times.

[ImCrazy]

this thread is amusing, I for one would rather have a lot of cars than the zx2 but it was cheap and I am broke, I wouldn't choose the zx2 except for the fact its cheap to buy cause it doesn't hold its value and cheap to own because it doesn't break very often if driven properly.

[ZeeEcksTwo]

Zxtwou2: Did YOU drive that '96 GTI on the same course, and did the other driver's drive your car as well? If not, no comparison. I highly doubt any of you were/are professional drivers.

If ford offered something very similar to what the current GTI offers, I'd be driving it. They don't so... well, they lost my business.

[powder]

IMO the only thing lacking on the zx2 is the tranny selection. I don't see how you can say shit build quality to be honest.

It's got a rigid as hell frame and w/ a few upgrades can hand most fwd and rwd cars their asses... apartently this includes the GTI as Tim stated.

I always found my ZX2 comfortable and i always liked the interior style cuz it wasn't like anything else. Everything worked in my ZX2 all the time (you painted your interior IIRC... which is probably why you didn't enjoy it much).

The Zetec engine is reliable and easy to work on and learn to work on.

Last but not least, it gets great gas mileage. Better than a lot of cars and w/ a few tweaks can be made to go 40 mpg.

It's also decently fast as well for what it is. Beats most other cars in it's class, etc.

I just don't see how you can deny any of these facts. The ZX2 and Escort line have a way better record than VW as far as build quality. You'd never admit if your car broke down though, so no one will ever know if the GTI follows the Jetta and Passat in horrible electronics engineering.

[KRUX]

talk about electronics about gti. Buddy has a 03 and keeps bagging me to go up there and fix it. He is sick of it and wishes he could get rid of it now.

[ChillinZX]

I like my interior of the ZX2. Nice stock black dash with black trims and black carpet. Goes good with my red/black racing seats. Nice gearing on the 5-speed, nice positioning of the shifter, nice view out the windshield...

[ZeeEcksTwo]

My GTI must be a freak. I've not had it in to any dealership for 'problems' because it hasn't had any. The only times it was at the VW dealership was for inspection/emissions & a few oil changes; one of those times it received the OY software update [to fix a check sum error]. My ZX2 was also reflashed by the local Ford dealer after the 'knocking under light acceleration' tsb came out. The only difference between those flashes; my VW had the same performance, the ZX2 lost some. It registered slightly more whp than the GRS0 during the PCM shootout at Cyber's a few years back.

Come to think of it, my GTI did have a dashboard rattle when it was new. A weeks worth of driving seemed to cure it, since it hasn't returned since then, and that was about 28k miles ago. I love my ZX2, but I love my GTI too.

[ZX2Fast]

Your VW would be the exception, not the rule. Statistically, the ZX2 is more reliable then any VW.

[ZeeEcksTwo]

I'll tell the story of my mom's 2000 Jetta GLS VR6. The check engine light has come on & off over the years for various reasons. Here's a list of the more memorable faults:

MAF failure [twice]
O2 failure [once, front sensor for bank #1]
Secondary Air pump [haven't gotten to fixing it yet, light came on yesterday]

With all those issues, NOT ONCE did the Jetta ever leave my mom sitting somewhere with a dead car, waiting for a tow. :O.O:

Now, back in 2003, I was pulling my ZX2 up to a traffic light when it shutoff. It wouldn't restart.... at all. After waiting an hour [AAA] for the tow truck, the dealer told me they'd call me asap after they scanned it. I was called the next day; no fault codes. They investigated and thought the Idle Air Control sensor was to blame, so it was replaced under warranty.

The next day, I'm just getting home from work when I push the clutch pedal in & the ZX2 dies, again. After 4 tries, it restarts and runs very rough. It stabilizes and idles normally a few seconds later. I let the negative terminal off of the battery for 60 minutes. The ZX2 runs fine for the following day. :poke:

On my way back from running errands, I start to climb a hill when all power goes away & the car shuts off, again. It barely restarted, had barely no power, and I had to push the car about a 1/4 mile to get it home. I called Allstate & had them send a tow truck to my house. I called the dealer to inform them the ZX2 was returning for the same issue. Again, no fault codes found. This time, the dealer replaces the fuel pump, under warranty & they tell me to call if the car hiccups at all. :shrug:

Not more than 1 hour later, the car gets me 10 feet out of my buddy's driveway and the car dies & shuts off AGAIN. :evil: The next day [thankfully I also had my Turbo Coupe to drive] I call Ford Roadside for another tow [They were actually the quickest in getting a flatbed to me.]. I call the dealer again & inform them. Two days later I get my ZX2 back. I was told they replaced the Fuel Rail Pressure Regulator, and that no codes appeared again. This time the problem was fixed.

In my case, when my ZX2 broke, IT BROKE. My mom has been fortunate to never know what it's like to wait for the wrecker to get your car that has failed. As a whole, VW may not make the most reliable cars, but after my family has had 5 different VWs ['78 Rabbit L, '84 GTI, '89 GTI 16V, '00 Jetta VR6 & mine], none of them have left any of us sit. The '86 Dodge Caravan, '78 Mercury Zephyr and my brother's '94 Escort GT all left us sit at one point, the Mercury twice. In my case, Ford isn't better.

[powder]

I have 3 different story's about Jetta's leaving friends stranded, one was 700 miles from home. Again, i don't know if the GTI's follow the electrical problems era for vw but i know the Jetta did, and that's enough for me to never ever buy a vw. Maybe they are good cars, but i just don't care.

Your one story is good, i'm glad your mom never had to deal w/ being stranded. It doesn't set the bar though cuz the bar's been set already imo.

[ZX2Fast]

My car ran without oil for easily 5 minites in rush hour traffic because of a faulty adapter that I used when I installed the oil pressure guage. Every bit of the oil was gone. My wife was driving it and she said it sounded like gravel in a dryer. There wasn't even any oil in the parking lot she pulled into since it had been running so long without any. There was a 1/2" hole where the adapter was that all the oil ran out of. I fixed the hole and had to pour 5 quarts in to fill it up. That was about 4 years ago. I boosted it 2 years ago and it has 170,000+ miles on it. I'm also running on a base tune and I beat the hell out of this car. The engine has never been taken apart for any reason. Do that with a VW.

[powder]

My car ran without oil for easily 5 minites in rush hour traffic because of a faulty adapter that I used when I installed the oil pressure guage. Every bit of the oil was gone. My wife was driving it and she said it sounded like gravel in a dryer. There wasn't even any oil in the parking lot she pulled into since it had been running so long without any. There was a 1/2" hole where the adapter was that all the oil ran out of. I fixed the hole and had to pour 5 quarts in to fill it up. That was about 4 years ago. I boosted it 2 years ago and it has 170,000+ miles on it. I'm also running on a base tune and I beat the hell out of this car. The engine has never been taken apart for any reason. Do that with a VW.

Yes... please do it to all of them.

[ZeeEcksTwo]

My dad's '89 16V GTI has run without oil numerous times since he's too lazy to check it. The car may only have 104K miles on it, but the age over the ZX2 [and less technology of that age] shows that it can be done. Next?

You could try running an EJ20 or EJ25 without oil, however I'm skeptical the only bad thing that would be happening is the crankcase warping.

[powder]

I actually know a guy (a tuner down in Oregon) that ran his wife's EJ25 swapped Forester XT out of oil at the track. The guy he was racing blew a tranny and his diff pin flew out of his tranny and hit my friends oil pan and left a hole in it, then all the oil drained out and he still drove it home 75 miles, replaced the pan w/ a new one, then filled it and it's still running 8000 miles later. Stock STI motor basically w/ a few exhaust and tuning upgrades.

[ZeeEcksTwo]

Pretty stout right there. I think the case warpings I've heard of had to do with the older JDM EJ20s.

[powder]

Pretty stout right there. I think the case warpings I've heard of had to do with the older JDM EJ20s.

EJ205's or 207's?

[ZeeEcksTwo]

I'm not sure. My bro's building a '96 GC coupe [was a 2.2L Impreza L] & he swapped in an EJ20G [with the coil-on-plug ignition] and the case was very slightly warped, with only 84k kilometers on it. He told me that Suby engines do that.