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joshalabama
06-10-2008, 09:18 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080610/ap_on_el_pr/ron_paul_convention;_ylt=AuGLzqs2e11FN6xWPxsU5WUDW 7oF

AUSTIN, Texas - Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul is planning a daylong rally in Minnesota during the Republican National Convention that could draw attention from the presumed nominee John McCain.

The Texas congressman with a devoted following has tentatively reserved the Williams Arena at the University of Minnesota on Sept. 2, the second day of the GOP convention.

"We plan on having a large rally," said Paul spokesman Jesse Benton. "We want it to be a celebration of Republican values and what the Republican Party has traditionally stood for."



Benton also said Paul wants to send a message to the GOP "that we need to return to our roots" of limited government and personal responsibility.

The Republican Party will be gathering at the Xcel Energy Center in St. Paul for its four-day event that will end with McCain accepting his party's nomination.

University of Minnesota spokesman Dan Wolter confirmed in an e-mail that the Paul campaign has a hold on Williams Arena in Minneapolis, Minn.

Supporters of Paul have been pushing for him to have a speaking role at the Republican convention. In the latest Associated Press tally, Paul had 24 delegates.

The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review first reported on its Web site about the Paul event.



I just can't comprehend why he isn't further ahead in the race, or practically why he is non-existant. It would be great for a miracle uprising of Ron Paul but with 24 delegates lol...Man I wanted that man in office. Just my thoughts and wonderment.

SoCalZX2
06-10-2008, 10:12 PM
"Limited Government" and "Personal Responsibility" are things of the past. Thats why he's not going anywhere. His ideals are correct for this country to be great IMO, but like living within or below our means, it just doesn't happen anymore.

He's a ghost of ideal from another generation.

Buster
06-11-2008, 10:10 AM
I completely support the concepts of "Limited Government" and "Personal Responsibility".


However, I can't support a loon like Ron Paul. Plus, he's like an ostrich when it comes to defending the nation and confronting terrorism. We can't just quit and ignore the problem. It won't go away.

He has a good message, but his looniness kills the movement. He reminds me a lot of Ross Perot.

ZetecInside
06-11-2008, 10:18 AM
I completely support the concepts of "Limited Government" and "Personal Responsibility".

Yet you support a president who has overseen one of the largest expansions of the federal government in American history.

raider
06-11-2008, 10:23 AM
I completely support the concepts of "Limited Government" and "Personal Responsibility".


However, I can't support a loon like Ron Paul. Plus, he's like an ostrich when it comes to defending the nation and confronting terrorism. We can't just quit and ignore the problem. It won't go away.

He has a good message, but his looniness kills the movement. He reminds me a lot of Ross Perot.
So you would vote for obama that is going to take away our guns or McCain that wants the draft. Ron Paul is the only president candidate concerned with the nationally debt.

Buster
06-11-2008, 10:26 AM
We're not getting a draft. :D


I can't vote for Obama so there's your answer. No, I'm not thrilled about having to vote for the lesser of two evils, but we'll be FAR better off with McCain than Obama.

Buster
06-11-2008, 10:26 AM
Yet you support a president who has overseen one of the largest expansions of the federal government in American history.


I never once said I like that he spends like a Democrat.

ZetecInside
06-11-2008, 11:02 AM
I never once said I like that he spends like a Democrat.


You mean spends like a Republican. Democrats and Republicans spend the same way - but at least the Democrats know how to pay for it.

JonsZX2SR
06-11-2008, 11:22 AM
At this point I don't think either the Democrats nor the Republicans know how to pay for their proposals.

It has become so politically correct to provide for your constituencies that deciding something is a good idea but a) we can't afford it right now or b) we have to give something else up in exchange are not accepted solutions. It is like arguing with a spouse or child who wants something new and has all the arguments but is unwilling to accept that you just can't afford it.

Some people have the greatest impact as idea people. They have good ideas, put together arguments that get people to think, but they don't have a complete set of skills to manage, lead or get things done.

I see Ron Paul in that regard, he does have some good ideas, he puts together some good arguments, but he doesn't have the complete package, other ideas fall short and he doesn't have the skills to find solutions.

He might make a good controversial and outspoken congressman or senator. However, I don't think he would be willing to be a team contributor.

Buster
06-11-2008, 02:07 PM
You mean spends like a Republican. Democrats and Republicans spend the same way - but at least the Democrats know how to pay for it.

Yeah, emptying OUR bank accounts through taxes. :rofl:

younglink309
06-11-2008, 02:18 PM
Ron Paul isn't taken seriously because CNN doesn't like him.

If the news Networks don't like you, you don't have a shot.

Buster
06-12-2008, 08:37 AM
^

That holds true if you're a Democrat. When has ANY Republican candidate ever been liked by news networks?

They seemed to like McCain when he voted against the party and always worked with Democrats, but as soon as he became the Republican nominee, they turned on him.

CNN is no longer the Clinton News Network. Once they fell in love with Obama, they began running more and more negative Clinton stories while pretty much passing over bad Obama news like they used to do with the Clintons. They definitely had some influence on the primary election results.

ZetecInside
06-12-2008, 09:55 AM
Yeah, emptying OUR bank accounts through taxes.


Better that than emptying our children's bank accounts through irresponsible debt financing, which is what the Republican party has been doing for decades.


When has ANY Republican candidate ever been liked by news networks?

Ever heard of Fox News?

CNN is no longer the Clinton News Network.

CNN is actually a remarkably centrist news channel. Several polls have rated it as having the most balanced coverage in the U.S., and for every conservative critic accusing it of liberal bias, there is a liberal critic who accuses it of a conservative bias. The only reason you think it's a "liberal" channel is because your personal politics fall to the right of its centrist editorialist stance and coverage. CNN is "liberal" in relative terms to you maybe, but not to the average American.