View Full Version : 3 Women Who Could Join GOP Ticket
JessicaOfVA
06-23-2008, 10:44 PM
Found this article and thought it was interesting. Anyone else have any thoughts or opinions? And please try to keep this civil! I'd hate for this thread to get locked like the last McCain VP thread.
http://www.wtkr.com/Global/story.asp?S=8539887
Edit to Add: Just wanted to add that I think it would be an awesome ticket if Condoleezza Rice was the VP.
zxtwou2
06-23-2008, 10:55 PM
i would have totally voted for Elizabeth Dole if she'd run instead of GWB. i think it would be an epic slap in the face if a woman became VP to McCain...then McCain ended up handing it over due to health problems...and Hillary would have no chance in hell of being the first woman pres. it would make my life to see that happen.
PHeller
06-24-2008, 08:22 AM
Palin.
Mother of five. Raised taxes on oil company profits. Cut spending like a true fiscal conservative.
Really though, I'm not so sure McCain will select a female VP. I'm not sure he needs to. Maybe he'll select a woman as another secretary of state or something....but certainly not one with 5 children.
Buster
06-24-2008, 09:26 AM
Raised taxes on oil companies? Cross her off the list...that would only worsen our problem.
I've always like Mrs. Dole. She'd be a solid candidate.
Apparently Tom Ridge is now in the talk for VP. PA misses him. He'd easily carry PA since the vote is always close but barely Democrat. Rendell's army of welfare voters can't overcome a Ridge nomination.
PHeller
06-24-2008, 09:43 AM
How'a bout Condi? Black vote & Woman vote.
McCain should just select Ron Paul (who'd probably deny the VP spot anyhow). Why? Because he'd get all the Ron Paul supporters, and since most of the voters McCain has already got don't even know who Ron Paul is, they'd think no less/more of him.
But that's off topic.
JonsZX2SR
06-24-2008, 09:17 PM
I'm not sure why Ron Paul is relevant. He has about 1.1 million GOP supporters compared to 18+ million Democratic supporters each for HRC and Obama. Sounds like a minority vote of dissention, but still a minority. I respect the right of Ron Paul and his supporters to voice alternative views, but to think they are more than a small minority is ludicrous.
There are those who say the ideas are improtant, but if the message had strong merit Ron Paul would have gathered far more support. One question I'd like answered is if Ron Paul's message is so strong and relevant, why does he have such a small share of supporters.
To get elected and nominated he would have to get more than 20X the support he currently has... Barring a miracle, that isn't going to happen. Forget becoming the presidential nominee, in reality the VP spot is out of reach.
Just as one example, I think Bobby Jindall is a far stronger and more intelligent candidate for VP than Ron Paul.
PHeller
06-24-2008, 10:09 PM
I would agree, but I like throwing around ideas...even if they don't hit anything in particular.
SoCalZX2
06-25-2008, 12:01 AM
It's not that the message is irrelevant Jon. It's that it's a thought process that most people don't understand or believe in.
How many here actually believe that SMALL government and SELF accountability are important? I'd wager that not many do, and it's because we've all be fed political correctness and being told that we shouldn't step on anyones toes.
Fact is, life isn't fair, and unfortunately not everyone will succeed. But it is NOT the job of the Government to provide for us. But it is their job to defend our rights and freedoms. Not that they're doing a great job at that, but that was Ron Pauls message, and that message falls on deaf ears of those who think more big government programs are the way to a prosperous nation.
If we as Americans could REALLY shift our thought process and become self sufficient as a people, we would have a different view of the people we wish to run the country.
No politician will ever be perfect, but the ideals that Ron Paul presented were solid, and very fundamental. To try and discredit that is ludicrous IMHO.
zxtwou2
06-25-2008, 12:04 AM
^i whole heartedly agree that personal responsibility and accountability are things our culture lack these days. after all..it's more financially feesable for some people to sit at home on our dime than to go out and look for a job. that and the fact nobody wants the dirty jobs and want too much for what little skill they bring to the tables
/derailment
JonsZX2SR
06-25-2008, 12:56 AM
No politician will ever be perfect, but the ideals that Ron Paul presented were solid, and very fundamental. To try and discredit that is ludicrous IMHO.
Before discrediting concepts or ideas they need to first gain credibility. Ron Paul threw out a lot of ideas, but he or his followers didn't take the time to establish credibility. Had he done so, he might have done much better in the primaries. I agree that Obama, Mccain and HRC have credibility issues as well, but Huckabee and Paul were even less believable. Ron Paul spouted a lot of feel good ideas about smaller gov't but never backed up his ideas about how he would downsized gov't in an organized fashion, nor did he explain how essential services would be delivered.
I'm not discrediting Ron Paul's ideas, just pointing out they were never credible in the first place. His supporters make many unfounded assumptions, then get upset when challenged.
PHeller
06-25-2008, 07:33 AM
back on topic,
I think it will be difficult for McCain to select someone who is not only youthful, progressive and modern in his/her party (Republican), but is still true to the fundamental conservative values that some believe McCain is not.
I really do think it'll be someone like Palin, Jindall, or Christ. (haha...ahhhh Christ)
Buster
06-25-2008, 09:20 AM
Crist. :D
JonsZX2SR
06-25-2008, 05:39 PM
It would be an interesting move for McCain to choose a moderate VP. The conservative right would never vote Democrat, they would either grudgingly vote for McCain-?? or stay home. A moderate VP, such as Jindall would draw moderate votes away from the Democrats.
Similarly Obama could pick a moderate, man or woman, and ignore the left wing of the Democratic party. The risk here is the Democrats probably need to carry both the left and left of center to win the elction, particularly if Mccain picks a centrist for VP and carries a lot of moderate votes.
However, if either Huckabee or Ron Paul decided to run as an independent and draws votes away form the right of center, this possibly hands the election to the Democrats with a plurality (not majority) of popular votes.
That's one reason I favor forcing a runoff election if no one gets a majority of the popular vote. The top two vote getters have a 1-on-1 runoff and everyone else gets to stay home by law. If that seems unfair, all the candidates had a chance to finish in the top two and those who didn't, don't get to the final round.
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