First race with the new mods...and it was a death

[DominatingZX2]

But, that's okay. :)

Left work today (it's Friday, it was a nice day, that's pretty much the only time the car comes to work) behind my best friend, who has an '05 G35 4-door with the 6-speed. We pulled out, road was deserted, he pulled into the left lane and waited for me. Unfortunately, I didn't realize what he was doing, so I shifted into 2nd; pulled up next to him and he nodded, so I shrugged my shoulders as my way of saying "ehh, alright."

We did a 20-80 pull, and he put 1-1.5 cars on me. I screwed up by starting in 2nd, he was in first; he screwed up by not turning traction control off so he lost a little power on the 1-2 shift. Oh yeah, I was on motor too. It actually surprised me I hung that well, his car is pretty quick. No doubt now that my car is in the 14s on motor, now I just need to go prove it. 8)

[inis]

no way with just:
Nitrous Express EFI wet kit
Web Cams Hi-Rev intake and exhaust cams
Kamikaze header
AFX UDP
Braille No-Weight battery and mounting kit
CTA intake
ES motor mount insert
2.25" crush-bent exhaust piping
FR plug wires
Accel coil

on motor only, your not in the 14's.

With the nitrous, you should be a low 14.

matter of fact without tuning of any sort I bet you dont even break 130 whp.

[DominatingZX2]

no way with just:
Nitrous Express EFI wet kit
Web Cams Hi-Rev intake and exhaust cams
Kamikaze header
AFX UDP
Braille No-Weight battery and mounting kit
CTA intake
ES motor mount insert
2.25" crush-bent exhaust piping
FR plug wires
Accel coil

on motor only, your not in the 14's.

With the nitrous, you should be a low 14.

matter of fact without tuning of any sort I bet you dont even break 130 whp.

I'll take both of those bets. Care to set the terms?

[ChillinZX]

I dont believe 14's without SCT or Diablo. Manual G35's tend to be slower (avg 14.7) because people don't shift right, the ATX G35's are 14.2 all day long. You are at 15.1 my guess (don't forget you have the 2000 S/R computer and not the famous 1999 S/R computer).

[mechtech]

I think he should be at least 130 at this point, however.
C'mon now - with those cams?

[inis]

I think he should be at least 130 at this point, however.
C'mon now - with those cams?

its been proven over many years that I've been on this site. That it is nearly impossible to get over 130 with every bolt on and some WITHOUT tuning.

With tuning, its like cake with bolt on's.

and to prove my point even more, I didn't dyno over 130, and I had way more mods then he does to my motor/set up.

[Boss122]

its been proven over many years that I've been on this site. That it is nearly impossible to get over 130 with every bolt on and some WITHOUT tuning.

With tuning, its like cake with bolt on's.

and to prove my point even more, I didn't dyno over 130, and I had way more mods then he does to my motor/set up.


I had less mods than him and stock cams in my '00 S/R when it dynoed at 131 HP at the wheels. He has a chance of being at 130 HP or more. With the setup that gave me 131 HP at the wheels, I ran consistent 15.1's and 15.2's depending on the weather and track conditions. With the cams and other mods, he might run a 14.9.

[2000ZxT]

its been proven over many years that I've been on this site. That it is nearly impossible to get over 130 with every bolt on and some WITHOUT tuning.

With tuning, its like cake with bolt on's.

and to prove my point even more, I didn't dyno over 130, and I had way more mods then he does to my motor/set up.

I had less mods than him and stock cams in my '00 S/R when it dynoed at 131 HP at the wheels.

Inis speaks the truth, not you.

[2000ZxT]

Oh sorry I didn't see you had fogs and a giant ugly hoodscoop. That must be where all that extra whp is coming from.

[DominatingZX2]

Inis speaks the truth, not you.

Wow. So you're basing your argument on Boss lying about his dyno numbers and track times...that he got back in '01 or '02. Okay.

And trust me, my buddy's G35 is faster than a 14.7. I couldn't care less what "average" drivers can get with one, this guy drove a bone-stock '00 Mustang GT to a 13.7 so I think he knows what he's doing.

[daveyfx]

Inis speaks the truth, not you.

Wrong. I was there - as were many others - at the NZM meet in Atlanta when BOSS dyno'd 131 whp on the stock cams.

[NOBOTTLENOBOOST]

All dyno are different dynojet and dynomax dynos read higher than a mustang dyno with front wheel drive cars.. and all engines are different i have seen many engines with same bolt ons putting out very different #'s..

[ChillinZX]

Your 15.1 end of discussion, and your buddy is running 14.5.

[zxtwou2]

Inis speaks the truth, not you.

awww, how cute...another n00b doubting the word of an old schooler that's been around, put in his time, and had witnesses to what he says. i'd trust Boss over about 90% of the people here...maybe more. i'd say if JohnP or jonszx2s/r were arguing with Boss...then i'd doubt what he said :wiggle:

[DominatingZX2]

Your 15.1 end of discussion, and your buddy is running 14.5.


Gee, you're right. I may as well not even go to the track and find out for myself.

[zxtwou2]

yeah...going to the track is for losers...street racing is the only way. oh, and butt dynos and bench racing.

ps...nevermind my sig.

[DominatingZX2]

yeah...going to the track is for losers...street racing is the only way. oh, and butt dynos and bench racing.

ps...nevermind my sig.

Don't forget the most important part: if you haven't done it, no one can! :lol:

[ChillinZX]

Get yourself SCT and get it dyno-tuned, not mail order. Then you will be running high 14's without doubt.

[inis]

aww, is everyone all warm in there pants or what.

I said its nearly impossible. Boss being that exception I suppose. But on another note. Boss's car is kept cleaner then most of us here.

Every dyno and engine is different. Over my time on this site (as many times as it has changed) . I've seen very few break into the 14's totally N/A. The ones I have seen have alot more then he does. I've also noticed over the past couple of years, and from personal experience. Without tuning, no matter what the bolt ons are. Its very rarely over 130whp.

[powder]

LOL, i dyno'd 127 whp w/ intake, ngp0, gutted cat and my pulley. Vit, j0hnZ, mark720 and 2 other nw guys witnessed it. The OP has 130+, i'll put a $50 on it.

[ChillinZX]

And what are Boss's mods? I'll take my hi-torque intake cam out and put my stock one back in and I bet I can hit at least 14.9.

[ford motorsports]

no way with just:
Nitrous Express EFI wet kit
Web Cams Hi-Rev intake and exhaust cams
Kamikaze header
AFX UDP
Braille No-Weight battery and mounting kit
CTA intake
ES motor mount insert
2.25" crush-bent exhaust piping
FR plug wires
Accel coil

on motor only, your not in the 14's.

With the nitrous, you should be a low 14.

matter of fact without tuning of any sort I bet you dont even break 130 whp.


All right jarred, just because your car can't do it doesn't mean that his can't. Here is a 1/8th mile timeslip from mobile dragway that is approximately 60ft short of 1/8th mile so add 1/10th. Puts him below 15 seconds without cams.
His mods at the time were:
Stock PCM
JBA
no muffler
short throw
msd coil
udp
falken azenis
Weapon-r cold air
energy motor mounts
Progress springs
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/124770/fullsize/timeslipmike313.jpg

[inis]

I didn't say because my car couldn't do anything. I said everytime I've seen a zx2 with simular mods.

So your telling me with:
accel coil
jba header
and a weapon r CAI
udp
and no muffler

that a zx2 will be in the 14's? lol

[zxtwou2]

^you listed the least powerfully performing options of each of those mods. why automatically assume he doesn't have good parts? most autoXers i know only buy the best....because our races come down to the thousandths of seconds. heck, i came in 2nd place to a Subaru 2.5RS a few months ago by 0.013 seconds...out of 16 competitors.

[inis]

^you listed the least powerfully performing options of each of those mods. why automatically assume he doesn't have good parts? most autoXers i know only buy the best....because our races come down to the thousandths of seconds. heck, i came in 2nd place to a Subaru 2.5RS a few months ago by 0.013 seconds...out of 16 competitors.

I listed the actaul power adding mods.

Stock pcm is not a mod.

falken azenis aren't anything special.

Motor mounts and springs dont account for much, if anything at all.

[ford motorsports]

I didn't say because my car couldn't do anything. I said everytime I've seen a zx2 with simular mods.

So your telling me with:
accel coil
jba header
and a weapon r CAI
udp
and no muffler

that a zx2 will be in the 14's? lol

I am saying that it is possible, that you can get into the 14s with a few mods. Now with that being said, my brother did bracket race the hell out of his car, he did know how to drive it. Driver mods are good for a lot in a ZX2. That is not saying that atmosphere didn't play a huge roll in the good time slip. I had seen his car run anywhere from 15s to 16s because of the atmosphere. We all know that ZX2's fall flat on their face when the temps get hot and VCT comes into play.
We will just say that whenever somebody posts their track time that they post their best time that might have had a few factors that came into play including the atmospheric conditions, car performance, and driver precision.

I could see John running a 14 second time with the mods that he has. What were the mods that Boss had when he posted the 15.1 and everybody claimed BS on him? I believe he had S/R goodies and I think cam gears.

[NOBOTTLENOBOOST]

I listed the actaul power adding mods.

Stock pcm is not a mod.

falken azenis aren't anything special.

Motor mounts and springs dont account for much, if anything at all.



motormounts, springs, and tires are a VERY important part of drag racing. You can cut alot of time off with the right setup.

[ChillinZX]

I posted my 14.7 run and the only non-bolt on part was a hi-torque intake cam.

[inis]

nvm

[joshalabama]

OP should invest in SCT...I imagine he could gain a whole lot.

[ChillinZX]

A dynotuned SCT chip is the best bang for the buck on our cars. $250 or so and I went from 113-135, thats a 17% increase in power. And Josh, you have almost the same crap as I do, if you get phantom grip lsd you will see 15.0, but get a fidenza and see 14.9 and you can join the rest of the bolt-on 14 second ZX2 family.

[DominatingZX2]

Original Poster will be getting both his car and truck dyno tuned at the same time, thanks for the advice though. :lol: