View Full Version : KoiHoshi's Porsche 924 Project (Parts, parts, more parts)
koihoshi
08-01-2008, 12:04 AM
Haven't got a name for her yet. Anyway. Wanted one since I was a child. So here I am restoring it. Figured I'd post it up in project logs as it is a project.
First thing is first, I want it running so i can at least drive it. Then as I accumulate body parts and get ready to paint I'll make an overnight transition (that way it isn't in primer for months, god i hate driving cars around like that it's embarrassing).
So here's the picture of when we picked it up and put it on the trailer.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/cid_978.jpg
Finally home.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4372.jpg
Couple quick pics of the interior
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4367.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4368.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4370.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4366.jpg
"That Porsche is riding our ass!"
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/0_IMAGE_201.jpg
Moving on.
Progress.
Seats were covered in mold/mildew (rear seats), cleaned them off and sanitized them. As well, tonight, i bugbombed my car finally. It was infested with spiders and black widows. Don't need one of those crawling up on me while I'm driving.
Fixed the hatchback window/lock, found out it was rusted. Going to need to replace them entirely:
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4363.jpg
Above and beyond this I got rid of the seat covers. They were old and falling apart. Literally. Pictures of that to come.
Seats have pictures of them fixed as well. Camera I left at work though :(
On top of this, we managed to get some deep penetrating oil into the racks on the bottom of the seats. Me and my friend will be taking them out and cleaning them. The original seats have an awesome design, I plan on reupholstering them. This on top of the rear seats and the seats will be done.
2 places of the rear panels need replaced up near the seats, they're warped, but a simple fix. The door panels do not seem to be warped, though I haven't had a thorough chance to really dig into them and see how them clean up.
The carpet seems to be fine, no rips or tears. Needs shampoo'd.
Dash has tears. Was covered up by a cover mat which mimics the dash by sitting on top of it, but that as well warped and is showing wear. Seems the previous owner didn't know too much about interior preservation. This will need replaced.
Console needs replaced around shifter reaching back to rear seats.
Fuel system needs an overhaul and replacement or upgrade. Once this is done the car should start and should be driveable as transmission shifts and engine does not appear to have any rust inside. Needs an entire flush of all mechanical components and fluids as well as all rubber components replaced.
More pics to come on sunday of the progress.
:rocknana::goofy:
mellowness65
08-01-2008, 12:20 AM
is this going to me more of a restoration or a mod project?
koihoshi
08-01-2008, 12:38 AM
More resto than anything.
Once it's running we'll get into mods :)
- Suspension
- Fuel system
- Weight reduction
- Custom paint job and euro body kit
pissdrunx16
08-01-2008, 01:13 AM
Posted via Mobile Device my girlfriends dad has a 86 928 prototype .... All I can say is WOW!!! have fun good project!!
mechtech
08-01-2008, 05:42 AM
You gotta love it to do a resto on that car.
They just weren't that great. Kinda yawn...
BUT... they DO have the magic word on the nameplate!
mechtech
08-01-2008, 05:43 AM
You gotta love it to do a resto on that car.
They just weren't that great. Kinda yawn...
BUT... they DO have the magic word on the nameplate!
zxtwou2
08-01-2008, 05:46 AM
those cars do make awesome club racers, though. lots of clubs across the country, and they are pretty decent on the track. hell, you could probably race it as vintage.
koihoshi
08-02-2008, 04:30 PM
Parts ordered today:
4 924 NA fuel injectors
4 924 NA injector seals
1 924 thermo time switch
1 924 NA aux air valve
1 924 NA cold start valve
KnightJovian
08-02-2008, 09:32 PM
Isn't the 924 the one with the WV engine in it?
CarbonTC
08-02-2008, 09:36 PM
you need to get rid off the farm boot...lol
your project looks like lots of fun!
keep it up!!
mellowness65
08-02-2008, 09:38 PM
lets hope it doesn't have one of the West Virginia engines in it :lol:
Sir William
08-02-2008, 09:42 PM
VW designed it originally. I don't know it it had a vw power plant.... I'm pretty darn sure the 914 did
koihoshi
08-02-2008, 10:39 PM
VW powerplant, Audi Transmission.
Pics of tonight's progress. All door panels turned out to be just fine. Here is a picture of the rear seat and door panels prior to restore.
All I can say is "HELL FUCKIN YEAH!"
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4374.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4382.jpg
Now check it out. After stripped and dressed.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4379.jpg
Cleaned and stripped
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4383.jpg
After dressing
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4384.jpg
corby_baby
08-02-2008, 10:44 PM
Niceeeeeee Dooooooodddd
CraZx2ing
08-02-2008, 10:49 PM
Wow, nice clean up!!!
OGreaTFuzzY1
08-02-2008, 10:59 PM
i see no spiders!
~Fuzzy
koihoshi
08-02-2008, 11:00 PM
i see no spiders!
~Fuzzy
Yep, I bugbombed it (reluctantly) and cleaned out the webs and shit last night. Spent from 9pm till 1am doing it.
OGreaTFuzzY1
08-02-2008, 11:13 PM
hey u need new badges for the car? if u need some i can talk to my dad and see if he has any at work and maybe a turbo badge if u plan to turbo it
~Fuzzy
koihoshi
08-02-2008, 11:21 PM
hey u need new badges for the car? if u need some i can talk to my dad and see if he has any at work and maybe a turbo badge if u plan to turbo it
~Fuzzy
actually... the hood emblem is bent (some assholes vandalized it a while back before i bought it and tried to pry off the emblems). So if you have a hood emblem that would rock my world.
OGreaTFuzzY1
08-03-2008, 01:12 AM
lol w/e floats ur boat manz. he doesn't get back to work till monday so ill ask him tomorrow and remind him monday when he goes to work. i know that they are expensive from a dealership so. if he can get a few ill let u know.
~Fuzzy
koihoshi
08-03-2008, 01:25 AM
that'd rock!
texas_04
08-03-2008, 02:39 PM
Pics of the front seat covers? or a couple of the spiders. lol and maybe a couple pics of the fronts without the covers.
Please.
koihoshi
08-03-2008, 05:29 PM
I have none of the spiders, i bugbombed it. If I find some dead ones sure why not? Strange request...
Seat covers are tossed, just the ripped seats left now.
texas_04
08-03-2008, 09:36 PM
okay, never mind on the spiders. I thought you had taken a picture before the bug bombing. O well.
corybok
08-04-2008, 04:26 PM
any updates?
OGreaTFuzzY1
08-04-2008, 08:52 PM
he found acouple manz a hood emblem and a few others. they just need new double sided tape
~Fuzzy
koihoshi
08-04-2008, 09:38 PM
any updates?
yep, got some of the dash torn apart, will post pics later tonight. going to a friend's house for dinner though with me and my gf. so i'll post them later
as to the emblems, i am not sure if these ones use double sided tape, i think it actually screws into the bumper? I'll have to check later.
JoshDank
08-04-2008, 09:56 PM
Derek, it's pretty common for me to see these at the yard. I don't know what changes there are between model years, but if you think I can help find anything, let me know the part and the years it would be available on. I am a huge Porsche fan, so you know I'd love to see someone I know enjoying a nicely re-built one. ;)
koihoshi
08-05-2008, 01:46 AM
Derek, it's pretty common for me to see these at the yard. I don't know what changes there are between model years, but if you think I can help find anything, let me know the part and the years it would be available on. I am a huge Porsche fan, so you know I'd love to see someone I know enjoying a nicely re-built one. ;)
that would make my life, my friend!
77 is mostly the same up till 80 i believe...
i'm mostly looking for fuel system parts and dash pieces (and on wheel)
koihoshi
08-05-2008, 01:25 PM
ok dinner went way too late, expect pics and more write-up later tonight. i also have a log of it on my personal site that goes into a lot more detail.
koihoshi
08-06-2008, 12:47 AM
ah shit guys i'll post them up before i go to bed i keep forgetting LOL
ps: i'm eating macaroni and cheese so you'll just have to wait.
TFB 4 u.
PHeller
08-06-2008, 01:21 AM
good luck man.
My neighbor has a 89 Turbo, and although its pretty quick...I wouldn't touch it.
He's had difficulty selling it because I think the market has become aware of the maintenance nightmares they can be.
koihoshi
08-06-2008, 01:41 AM
Here's some more pics of some progress and more pics of the car.
First off, the exterior damage. Seems pretty easily fixable.
Light assembly and rear portion.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4396.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4397.jpg
Front passenger fender
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4395.jpg
Porsche Emblem (Rest in peace emblem ..... i hate vandals)
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4401.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4400.jpg
Locking mechanism needs a new locking mechanism...
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4399.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4398.jpg
Fuel filter?
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4394.jpg
WTF is this thing, the wingnut is stripped.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4402.jpg
Dreaded engine bay of doom.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4393.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4392.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4391.jpg
Ok now I'm trying to figure out and ensure these tubes went into this. They were hanging near it and are brittle and busted. One looks like a vacuum line of some sort?
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4390.jpg
Now progress:
Took out the center console, took out that ugly ass shift boot and cleaned out the area a little. Marked my wires. Took out the gauges to work on them, recrimp and fix some of the wiring.
Before:
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4386.jpg
After:
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4388.jpg
The original radio. (i wonder if it still works...)
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4403.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4404.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4405.jpg
koihoshi
08-06-2008, 01:46 AM
Gauges fixed nothing a little powered by armstrong couldn't fix.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4407.jpg
OGreaTFuzzY1
08-06-2008, 01:53 AM
lookin good manz
~Fuzzy
ZX2 Sleeper
08-06-2008, 05:57 AM
Hope you have a bulk amount of TLC. Lol. Looks like that things gunna need it. I think you should focus more time on getting it running just incase you find out the engine is a toasted bagel with cream cheese.
It's good to see some progress, keep at it!
slammmed
08-06-2008, 06:16 AM
Hope you have a bulk amount of TLC. Lol. Looks like that things gunna need it. I think you should focus more time on getting it running just incase you find out the engine is a toasted bagel with cream cheese.
It's good to see some progress, keep at it!
even if the motor needs replaced, the interior and engine bay and everything else still needs cleanin.
OGreaTFuzzY1
08-06-2008, 06:59 AM
don't u love sleepers post lol
he's going the right way with his rebuild, theres no reason not to get the nasty cleaned first, then mess with either the engine or bodywork next. i'm going to be doing the same thing when i start on the pinto next spring. clean the car then do the body then engine. the only problem i see though is he'll want to find a engine thats been barley used cuz Porsche parts are expensive lol
~Fuzzy
2000zx2chik
08-06-2008, 07:06 AM
Looks good so far! You name her yet?
TTFOWIA
08-06-2008, 07:15 AM
noice. subsrbd
CBZx2
08-06-2008, 12:15 PM
Holy crap that engine bay alone is going to be a huge project...
koihoshi
08-06-2008, 12:40 PM
Hope you have a bulk amount of TLC. Lol. Looks like that things gunna need it. I think you should focus more time on getting it running just incase you find out the engine is a toasted bagel with cream cheese.
It's good to see some progress, keep at it!
The engine appears to have no rust inside it. The tranny shifts, goes into gear, clutch works, doesn't stick. However, everything else needs replaced. I'm getting a lot of naysayers saying they think the car has flood damage (it didn't get flooded, it sat in the valley and has sun damage, 2 different things).
I have fuel system parts on the way just for that very reason, to get it up and running as it's mostly the fuel system that needs replaced.
fastporsche911s
08-08-2008, 07:41 PM
Sick dude - got an old school 911 in th garage. I hope you enjoy it, you've got your work cut out for you. Be sure to get on rennlist.org if you haven't already. Pelican parts is going to be your best friend for hard to get pieces and reconditioned parts. Best of luck
-Steve
00 zx2 151,000 miles - not moving currently
74 911s - 63K original miles silver on black - ready for new valve cover gaskets
koihoshi
08-11-2008, 10:19 PM
Thanks Steve.
Nice to see another Porsche enthusiast on the boards :)
I absolutely love that generation of 911. My particular favorite is the 2.7RS, absolutely gorgeous little cars. I almost bought an old 912 but it needed the motor rebuilt and i could not find anyone who made the parts to do so except 2 guys both of which quoted me WAY too much.
koihoshi
08-11-2008, 10:21 PM
Ok more progress!
Well. Today was a pretty extensive amount of work to clean up the interior. And amazingly, it smells a lot better. It seems most of the stink is hanging out in the carpet and the foams.
I vacuumed it extensively today and managed to get a huge portion of the trunk cleaned out too. I found lots of crazy things. Old papers, old pens, dimes and nickels (Hey i'm getting paid by the hour now! sweet!), even a hair roller/curler thingy.
The carpet isn't actually bad at all, nor is it worn through or tattered or bad. The carpet just needs shampoo'd really really bad. I am going to try and pull all of the carpet out of the car and clean it and then put it back in, rather than just getting new carpet. I see no reason to actually replace something if it isn't bad and it's just dirty.
- Vacuum
- More alcohol
- Clean out the rust
- Clean out all the garbage
- Removed seats
The seats were actually a huge PITA to get out because even a 1/4 ratchet won't clear the seat and hit the bolt. The problem wasn't that the ratchet wasn't clearing it, but rather that the seat actually wasn't moving all the way back. I had to sit and rock a rusty seat back and forth, basically creating it's own path in the rusty tracks till they came loose and went all the way back so i could access the bolts. I eventually got them out...
Except for one... I had to get out my heavy cutting wheel on my dremel and cut through the bolt, which ended up smoldering in a pile of rust i didn't notice and smoking (thank god i caught that in time).
After i got it out i spent a hefty amount of time cleaning up all the crap in there and vacuuming it out. The results are night and day.
Now all I need is new tracks for the seats and we'll also reupholster them and i'll have gorgeous new black leather seats. I was considering racing seats, but these seats look so nice, I really can't say no. I think what I'll do is go ahead and embroider the oldschool porsche logo onto the seat heads. It'll look nice :)
Enough talk. Pics and progress.
As you can see.... The tracks are rusted.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4409.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4411.jpg
Pretty nasty
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4413.jpg
Seats aren't too bad, just need reupholstered.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4412.jpg
VERY dirty.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4414.jpg
Is that a hair roller from the 70s?
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4416.jpg
Spent a while cleaning it up....
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4418.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4419.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4420.jpg
CraZx2ing
08-11-2008, 11:00 PM
cool man, gets better every time we see the pics...
corby_baby
08-11-2008, 11:01 PM
gj man, i cant wait to see it done.
koihoshi
08-11-2008, 11:19 PM
Thanks everyone. I am contacting my old boss tomorrow to see what he wants to reupholster the seats...
On wednesday i go to portland and will be picking up my fuel injection system.
Never dealt with a fuel injection system like this before. CIS.
Very interesting (http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/CIS.html)
mellowness65
08-11-2008, 11:26 PM
if the rails aren't too terrible and you know someone with a blasting cabinet try that, it does wonders on old rails. blast em and blow em out/off with brake cleaner, paint and grease 'em up. if they work, great, if they don't then you lost some old crusty metal
koihoshi
08-11-2008, 11:36 PM
There are no rails.
It goes straight from the fuel distributor into stainless lines and into the injectors.
mellowness65
08-12-2008, 12:02 AM
lawlz i meant for the seats yo
koihoshi
08-12-2008, 12:05 AM
haha my bad, i thought you were talking the fuel injection i was like "huh? did he not read that link?"
yeah the rails are pretty much toast... the exterior could be glassbead... but the inside of them is toast.
No worries though, I'll find some new ones.
corybok
08-15-2008, 06:36 PM
uupdates?
koihoshi
08-15-2008, 06:46 PM
uupdates?
Picked up the fuel system the other night.... my parts got here yesterday but i've had no time to unpack them. Don't have a day off to really sit down and work on it till sunday. Will have more pics and updates then.
corybok
08-16-2008, 08:36 AM
sweet, lookin forward to it
blue_2001
08-20-2008, 08:38 AM
so is this worth it so far. there is a 78 924 by me for $3500
koihoshi
08-20-2008, 10:35 AM
This depends on what's worth it to you and what the meaning behind it is.
To me, this car is special to me and something I've always wanted since a teenager and for me it's a simple want come true for me. I don't care if I end up spending $2000 or $10,000 in the end, to me, it's worth it.
As to the one for $3500 it depends. Things to remember about these cars:
The original year (1977) had the most quirks and rust issues. After that they started treating the cars for rust to eliminate that. The first year only made 95hp in the US due to the head work. The years after made more and more as the 911 series became more powerful (it's a Porsche thing, didn't want the 924 to compete). If it's a turbo you may need to ask yourself if you are okay with an interference motor as all the turbo motors were interference applications and all of the standard N/A motors were non-interference motors except for the S versions.
You can have head work done to the N/A and turbo motors and bring the horsepower up quite a bit. Porsche purposely tinkered with the heads on the US version along with a few other things and gave it literally 30 less hp. As I said... so it couldn't/wouldn't compete with the 911 of the time.
Then again... you don't buy these cars for the power either :)
For $3500 it should have a nice interior, be running strong with lower miles (under 100,000 give or take) and should not really have any rust and maybe just need a paint job and some minor things.
corybok
08-30-2008, 09:31 AM
anymore updates koi?
99whitezx2
08-30-2008, 09:55 AM
nice car, my friend has a 924 with a 944 engine swap
koihoshi
08-30-2008, 11:46 AM
Sorry guys... as of today i'll be over 60 hours deep in overtime, i've literally had no time.
Tomorrow is my parent's 25th anniversary. But monday I have to myself. Expect results monday :) Sincere apologies for those who have subscribed or who are watching this thread and haven't seen much lately. You'll see plenty :)
One good thing...
- Did get into contact with my old boss that i worked for as a teenager. I have full permissions to use his sandblaster for whatever I want. I'll be giving lots of part a glass bath and FINALLY diving into the engine bay this week.
- Sent pictures of my seats to my old boss. Should have a quote for the seats getting reupholstered soon as I didn't really get any definitive answers from the people I asked about my seats. The other people I asked were too busy to take any more work on at this time.
- Been spending my evenings cleaning the parts for the fuel system so they're presentable.
corybok
09-01-2008, 08:35 AM
well i guess working alot can be good still, you'll have some mullah.
lookin forward for the updates!
I dont have time to read the entire thread, but was the car in a flood? it has some serious rust issues.
koihoshi
09-01-2008, 05:04 PM
I dont have time to read the entire thread, but was the car in a flood? it has some serious rust issues.
No.
koihoshi
09-01-2008, 09:30 PM
Major update #4
Today I got pretty much all of the fuel system out except for the intake manifold and a few of the lines which I am very iffy about taking out until I'm ready to put the new one just to keep from having any contaminants in the lines and engine, etc....
The injectors are crap (at least the cold start injector) so i assume the rest look insanely dirty. After I took off the throttle pieces I noticed that it's in need of a dire cleaning. It functions, and needs a cleanup... but it's in perfectly fine working condition, just dirty.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4541.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4542.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4543.jpg
I also took out a huge majority of brackets and rusted parts to add to the box of glassbeading that needs to be done. It'll feel nice to get it all glassbeaded and painted...
I need to get a repair manual to identify what is what. But here's some pictures of the timing belt and accessories. I found what appears to be A/C at the bottom left (I assume). Which needs to go if it is....
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4539.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4540.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4537.jpg
Additionally, it seems that actually a LARGE majority of the hoses are actually still flexible and seem fine... no cracks and no splitting. Amazingly, even the timing belt didn't seem too bad... (still going to replace it of course).
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4550.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4551.jpg
As you can see, anything with a gasket is sealed, and even though all of this surface corrosion and rust occurred, almost anything electrical is perfectly fine.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4552.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4553.jpg
I also found out why this car is so hard to find parts for...
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4547.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4548.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4549.jpg
Keeping all the little brackets... don't want to lose this little bugger.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4544.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4545.jpg
Last but not least I ripped out the dash cover and need to figure out what I want to do with it... replace the dash? Or, get a cover and put it on right...
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4554.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4555.jpg
Mmmmm spiders.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4556.jpg
So quick cliffnotes version:
- Removed all throttle pieces, coldstart injector, most of the fuel lines, several brackets holding in most of it.
- Removed brackets holding part of the cooling system
- All intake/Filters/Tubing removed for intake
- Hoses for vacuum lines checked, some removed... most were fine
- Removed dash cover
- Checked hood cable to make sure it wasn't rusted, pulled part of lever to be sandblasted
- All brackets, rusted pieces and pieces with corrosion added to the glassbead/paint box.
- Most fluid containers moved to the side to allow room to get to the fuel lines so they can be replaced (they route underneath the car and down to the accumulator)
- All throttle pieces removed into separate box to be checked for wear pieces and be rebuilt, then glassbeaded/painted
powder
09-01-2008, 10:17 PM
Sweet. You could def clean up that tb w/ carb cleaner and it'd be perfectly fine. You getting aftermarket IM and injectors or sticking w/ OE?
The spider thing would piss me off though. Get a couple more scorpions and throw em in there for a weekend or something lol. Make sure to put a couple video camera's in there though. Did you actually end up spider bombing it?
koihoshi
09-01-2008, 10:19 PM
I did spider bomb it, yes.
I'll keep with the regular injectors as I now have 3 sets...
OGreaTFuzzY1
09-03-2008, 12:43 PM
just fiberglass the dash manz make it look nice :D
~Fuzzy
PHeller
09-03-2008, 01:00 PM
get you tetanus booster lately?
I love cleaning up engine bay and making rusty parts shiny again, it's just that bad feeling you get when you take stuff apart that you hope it'll all go back together again...
koihoshi
09-03-2008, 01:10 PM
Hope? Oh i know it'll go back together again :)
koihoshi
09-04-2008, 08:10 PM
Dropping the gas tank sunday... as long as the gas had no water in it, not bad gas, and no moisture got in i should be hooking up the ZX2 battery and the new fuel system and testing it to see if she'll get pressure in the system.
Cross your fingers. I'll be using the crap lines and some of the iffy lines to test it, my main concern is whether or not the fuel pump works and if the accumulator is okay. I was told the accumulator might ACTUALLY be fine. The pump on the other hand will be questionable dependent on whether or not the gas had water in it and if anything internally has gone bad.
Cross your fingers for me!
BlackEscortGT
09-05-2008, 12:01 PM
goodluck man wouldlove to see it running
koihoshi
09-13-2008, 02:57 PM
- waiting on my old boss for a go on the glassbeading. if i get the go ahead i'll be doing this tomorrow.
- found out i can entirely remove the emissions with no worries as well as the old air filter that goes with it. WEIGHT REDUCTION! and more space under the hood! pics to come on this tomorrow.
koihoshi
09-14-2008, 09:56 PM
Got the other fuel system installed today with all lines inspected and they look GREAT! Unfortunately still pretty dirty on the outside, and the plastic is pretty brittle and old. So these will only work temporarily. Need to buy new lines or get some others made, depends on how much it'll cost, which is most effective and efficient.
Also blew off the ENTIRE engine bay and cleaned it up quite a bit. Got emissions removed entirely and that freed up a shit ton of space under the hood. Got the new injectors installed and checked all the little copper gaskets. It's mostly good to go.
I'd say i'm about 75% done in terms of getting it at least running.
Going to get some penetrating oil and pop it down the plugs to make sure the rings aren't seized but everything is mostly clean, i doubt it's seized but we'll see.
Pics to come, i took very few.... too busy today.
koihoshi
09-15-2008, 02:45 PM
Ok folks, here's the pics of the engine bay after emissions was removed.
First is the pic before the entire fuel system was removed:
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4537.jpg
Here's the picture after it was removed, as you can see, lots of room, pretty messy. You'll also notice the pump for the emissions, the belt, the air filter, the hoses...
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4584.jpg
Closer view with the entire emissions system removed.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4583.jpg
Here's a brief diagram i found on google from another Porsche 924 owner of what the engine bay looks like. This diagram is hoses, wiring, and the fuel system routing.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/spaghetti_alla_carbonara.jpg
I still have the throttle body removed and disassembled the entire thing. Here's some pictures of the plates before. One on the left is unclean, one on the right is sanitized in alcohol, brushed, and lightly polished.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4587.jpg
Here's a picture of the throttle body itself after a nice cleaning. Still have yet to thoroughly polish it.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4585.jpg
Pictures of the plates after a full cleaning. Note I did not polish the one with the indents in it because I did not want to chance messing up the point of them having that as my understanding is it deals with mixing the air/fuel better... However, I did fully polish the smaller plate.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4589.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4590.jpg
I still need to take off the springs and clean up the whole throttle body and mess around with it so it's working at 100% as it's somewhat sticky still from the old rusted springs.
I installed the new fuel injectors yesterday. Turns out i have 12 injectors total. 4 original injectors, 4 i bought, and 4 were donated with the fuel system i was given. The ones I bought were the right size, but, wouldn't work with my fuel lines as they were meant for threaded lines (I may keep them and buy some threaded tips for my lines so i can use them, they are VERY clean, and from a later year 924), the ones that came with the fuel system are full of crap and soiled, they were able to be cleaned, but I mixed and matched them with the current injectors that were there so none had rust and all were clean. You can see all the way down the barrel and they are quite spotless...
I mixed and matched the lines as some of the ones that came with the CIS system that was donated were brittle, old, and even snapped. Mine did the same, but I inspected them first. However, the great part is that due to having 2 CIS system I have a crapload of those copper washers, all of which are in great condition, but now I have extras.
The cold start injector on the car that came with it was better than the one I bought, which sucks, because they aren't cheap, the one i bought used was rusted down inside, mine was pretty much flawless. I guess that goes to speak for worry about replacing parts when you haven't seen if they're bad yet anyway.....
I improvised on the brackets that held them in originally as the pump and parts of that system had some ginormous brackets helping to hold the CIS system in but really weren't necessary. I was able to remove probably a good 5-10LBS of brackets, emissions, bolts, nuts, etc.... that sucker was heavy.
I'd say I'm roughly 75% complete with getting it at least to running status.
Here's what is needed to get it running IF EVERYTHING ends up working fine.
- Battery
- Fresh gas (this is assuming the pump and accumulator are okay)
- Plugs
- Finish the throttle body
- Test the entire fuel system
- Penetrating oil to ensure the rings don't snap (this is assuming they are bound or seized, hopefully this is not the case, and thus far EVERY internal part is showing signs that they shouldn't be as they're all flawless so far inside)
The new accumulator looks FLAWLESS and after pulling the new CIS system apart it appears to be fine. It drove another 924 from Idaho to Portland, Oregon a year ago, so it should be fine. I also got a new aux air valve installed and the thermo time switch, all of which were tested before they were sent to me. So I guess for $90 in used parts, I still came out on top, those thermo time switches are NOT cheap....
So far so good!
I'm not even going to mention the wiring for now till it's started and working LOL
AND, got a haynes manual ordered for $6 off of amazon, w00t!
dareall
09-15-2008, 02:55 PM
there is a company called "justdashes" here in california that can rebuild your dahpad if you cannot find a suitable replacement
koihoshi
09-15-2008, 03:01 PM
I might find a crap one in a junkyard with a nice interior and just buy it and pull it and replace it into mine.
However, prices? Website?
koihoshi
09-21-2008, 07:09 PM
Ok, pretty big update.
So i took a look at the accumulator, not rusted, looks great. I didn't look inside, but as the rest of this car looks perfect, and it's sealed, I'm going to assume it's fine. At this point I need to rebuild/repair the throttle body and slap it back on, tune it up, get a battery, and fire this badboy up.
Fuel pump:
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4624.jpg
Today's job included lots of penetrating oil onto the parts to get a lot of the parts off so I can get them in a glass bath.
I've been talking about glassbeading for a while, FINALLY got ahold of my old boss and he's letting me come in not this monday, but next monday. I've got a nice big box of brackets and crap to glassbead and repaint with some high heat paint.
First thing was first, getting rid of the old plugs so i could get into the combustion chamber to spray in some penetrating oil at hopes that there is nothing wrong with the rings. At this point, I'm going to assume this motor is fine. The plugs had no rust, were not seized in, and came right out. I'm almost wondering if some things on this car had been touched a few years ago as some of the parts still move.
Pic tutorial.
First off the plugs. Pulled them. not bad at all (don't mind the grit, i dropped them by accident)
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/DSC_0127.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/DSC_0128.jpg
I promised pics of the engine bay with the new lines installed.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/DSC_0125.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/DSC_0124.jpg
I found some interesting things in the big folder of papers that were in the car when I bought it.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/DSC_0133.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/DSC_01322.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/DSC_0130.jpg
After I got the plugs back in and some neversieze on the plugs... i went after the ignition system. First thing I wanted to check was the distributor. I pulled apart pieces of it and low and behold........
Perfect inside.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4608.jpg
After I looked at the ignition and determined it may have a fighting chance at getting this car started I decided to tackle other things that had been giving me crap. Like getting the bolts off the struts as they were rusted on. Time for PENETRATING OIL! (Warning: only for use on parts... not your girlfriend)
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4621.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4622.jpg
The pulley system too....
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4623.jpg
I'm going to let the oil sit for a few days and see if I can get them off then. It helped with the spark plugs.
The next thing to tackle was the lights. They wouldn't BUDGE. The motor was pretty old, my friend gave me a new one, so I put that in, but played with the system a little before I put it back on to see if i could get it to move. Thankfully, thanks to NAPA penetrating oil... and some patience.....
VICTORY
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4609.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4610.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4611.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4613.jpg
The culprit? The ball and gaskets they sit in were gunked up and stuck.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4614.jpg
Found this while I was hunting in the back, cleaned it up. It's great!
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4615.jpg
Pulled the door vents out, cleaning them up tonight
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4617.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4616.jpg
SoCalZX2
09-21-2008, 07:15 PM
Awesome man!
Looking forward to seeing some good pics when I get home... stupid work filters.
OGreaTFuzzY1
09-21-2008, 07:16 PM
awesome work manz!! cant wait to see this done lol
~Fuzzy
Looks like she is moving along. I hope to see a video of this thing running some time soon bro.
koihoshi
09-23-2008, 01:33 PM
Found 2 sources for parts. Guy in washington off the 924 boards has offered me a deal i CANNOT refuse on the tail lamp assembly and lense, hatch locks and fender, he basically has a race car he is making, stripped out a few parts cars, and has tons of parts available for CHEAP. i have also found a source for a center console with no cracks, scratches or issues that is not broken but still waiting for a price quote.
OGreaTFuzzY1
09-23-2008, 03:32 PM
awesome manz the car seems like its gonna be done in no time :D
~Fuzzy
koihoshi
09-23-2008, 03:39 PM
RUNNING and in drivable condition in no time.... finished entirely? who knows :P
start her up tonight. Get a video of it
koihoshi
09-23-2008, 03:46 PM
With what battery and what throttle body? LOL!
koihoshi
09-25-2008, 11:58 AM
Throttle body is repaired, fixed, lubed, polished up on the inside and ready to be installed on the car again.
I now need a battery and to fit the vacuum lines properly and i'll be ready to test the system and see if she starts. I have pics of the throttle body but will have to upload them at lunch.
Waterboy9000
09-25-2008, 12:28 PM
wooot! this is exciting, makes me want a project car!
koihoshi
09-25-2008, 12:35 PM
Yeah, the thing that pisses me off is that if it DOES start.... I'm going to have to bolt in some lawn chairs or something to drive it LOL!
Waterboy9000
09-25-2008, 12:44 PM
lol thats life
Buster
09-25-2008, 12:54 PM
Yeah, the thing that pisses me off is that if it DOES start.... I'm going to have to bolt in some lawn chairs or something to drive it LOL!
5-gallon bucket. Do it Camaro-style. :D
koihoshi
09-25-2008, 02:43 PM
As you can see, the throttle body when i took it off was in pretty bad shape.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4541.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4542.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4543.jpg
Last night thanks to elbow grease, alcohol, metal polish and mr dremel, and some penetrating oil and sandpaper, the throttle body is happy. Granted the bolts and springs are somewhat rusted still, they are now lubricated and sanded inbetween and works just as great as a new throttlebody. Turns out the other throttle body i cleaned up was the wrong one and wrong year, so i had to use the original :( You'll notice i polished the inside though best i could :)
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4648.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4649.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4650.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4651.jpg
Granted, once i get it all finished I will rebuild it entirely. But for now, i need to make sure it runs.
koihoshi
09-25-2008, 10:28 PM
Got a new battery, coolant, oil, filter, and put the throttle body on tonight.
It turns over! The motor is NOT seized! This motor is good!
Motor for headlights works 100%, turn signals work, dash works, instruments work, panels work, lights work!
HOWEVER, I am not getting spark :( I think I smell fuel, so it seems to get fuel, but, i'm not 100% sure if it is correctly. Either way, first thing first, not getting spark. It's dark outside and 9:45 so i'm done working on it till I can get my haynes manual open and troubleshoot the system.
New plugs, gapped right, etc... so that's fine.
I am not sure how the entire ignition system works, so it could be something simple I'm missing. Will find out more on saturday.
koihoshi
09-26-2008, 02:44 PM
ok some review on the ignition system.
i found a chart in the haynes manual that explains it. now, i checked the ignition control module and it looks absolutely fabulous and was sealed tight, no rot, no corrosion. however, the exterior and all connections going to it are rusted to shit.
so my thesis is going to be that we have a wiring problem.
i'll be going to the hardware store tomorrow morning bright and early to get a big bulk of stainless steel washers and nuts and bolts and some wire ends. it's time to get my soldering gun out and rewire this sucker. i plan on running some new wire as well to pro-actively eliminate having MORE issues in the future. not to mention if it is one thing i've learned in european vehicles, it's that they drive great but they're wired like crap. i'm not sure where I learned that *cough* ducati *cough* but i'm pretty sure i figured it out somewhere....
Not to mention i see no point in actually testing these things when the wiring sucks anyway, so i plan on starting with the basics FIRST, and going from there.
Soadrocksever
09-26-2008, 02:54 PM
pretty freakin sweet.
::jealous smiley::
koihoshi
09-26-2008, 08:31 PM
Tested coil, voltage go in, nothing come out :(
And then it broke.... so it appears i have a coil issue LOL
JoshDank
09-26-2008, 08:45 PM
LOL. At least you found the issue (or at least part of the problem). Glad to see you're making progress. Wish you were closer so I could help out. I've been looking for about a year, and I think my first garage project is going to be a 928.... can't wait. BTW, let me know if you need any parts from MSD, I should be able to get them at cost for ya ;)
koihoshi
09-27-2008, 02:14 AM
Ok turns out the way it's grounded has nothing to do with the way i tested it so it MIGHT be okay and I may be testing it wrong.
Will followup tomorrow with pics *sigh* lol
Boss122
09-27-2008, 03:45 AM
Here's a brief diagram i found on google from another Porsche 924 owner of what the engine bay looks like. This diagram is hoses, wiring, and the fuel system routing.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/spaghetti_alla_carbonara.jpg
I know your pain there. I helped a friend of mine replace all the vacuum lines in his late 80's Dodge Daytona Shelby. The vacuum diagram looked more like several large city subway maps on top of each other than a vacuum line diagram. :eeek:
The first time we got all the old lines and plastic and rubber parts replaced, we took the car out for a test drive and half of them blew off when the turbo spooled up. Apparently some of them also held boost. :lol:
^^That's how my dads 81 mustang looks with his vacuum lines. Such a pain to try to find replacement of these small little plastic lines that go every were. In fact haven't been able to find any.
Get that coil either tested or slapped back on there and starter her up. Come on cowboy get her movin
koihoshi
09-27-2008, 01:28 PM
More parts on the way.
I FOUND SEAT RAILS AND A CONSOLE!
And they're in awesome condition!
koihoshi
09-27-2008, 05:44 PM
A lot of progress today.
Found out why the headlights weren't working, the prop was misaligned and to top it off i found out why they wouldn't go back down. Turns out the motor relay was corroded and someone decided to rewire it but not crimp it right, so every time i touched the fuse box the headlight would go up........then down.......then up..... then down.. I had to screw with it a while until i got the right adjustment and retorque it back down and redo the wiring for it.. Because someone has been wanting a video.... here's a vid with the headlights working. I left the cell phone ring in because i thought it was funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMv5QQpwrjk
Here's a brief picture of the fuse box. Not pretty.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4659.jpg
Picture of what i've been doing all day, re-grounding all my connections with new connectors, nuts, bolts, washers, wires and ends.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4658.jpg
And the coil broke :( Still works! No arcing, but, still, i should replace it at some point.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4657.jpg
Now, i'm not getting fuel and I don't know why. It isn't coming up to the distributor so it's one of the following things:
Pump>Accumulator>Filter>Lines
I'm going to aim at the pump maybe not working. I tested the connections and when you turn it over the fuel pump gets 10.x volts, so it IS getting voltage and it's staying. So I know it isn't the wiring, thank god that isn't the case.... The spark and fuel are both mysteries thus far, but until the wiring is ALL finished, I'm not even going to bother troubleshooting that.
PHeller
09-27-2008, 06:49 PM
If the pump is getting power, but you can't hear it; it ain't working. Most all fuel pumps are pretty loud, especially older ones.
There might be a relay that control both spark and fuel. My Shadow had this. When the relay went out, it acted like a fuel pump. I turned the key, it would turn over, but no spark or fuel. Turns out this relay controlled both systems.
koihoshi
09-27-2008, 07:12 PM
relay for spark and fuel are separate. the pump has it's own relay and the relay works. I'll check the pump.
koihoshi
09-29-2008, 02:13 PM
LOTS of pictures today. Before and after.
It's glassbath day!
Waterboy9000
09-29-2008, 02:32 PM
ahh i wanna see um!
koihoshi
09-29-2008, 11:39 PM
Pics in about 10 minutes. I just finished.
koihoshi
09-29-2008, 11:54 PM
Ok so here's what I started with in the engine bay.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4392.jpg
This is a picture of a box of rust.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4679.jpg
This is a picture of the box of rust turned into a clean pile of metal.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4680.jpg
This is the happy metal getting a nice fresh coat of high heat paint, low gloss, black, happy, fresh... fresh... happy paint.
Timing belt cover
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4682.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4690.jpg
Radiator reservoir brackets
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4684.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4693.jpg
Some of you may remember my happy friend mr rusty throttle body.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4541.jpg
Then we cleaned and polished him.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4650.jpg
And now he's painted. I still need to polish up the edges where the tubing goes. But at least it's clean now.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4688.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4686.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4687.jpg
I was able to salvage 2 of the seat rails.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4689.jpg
Misc brackets
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4691.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4692.jpg
This isn't all the parts i got but i got tired of taking pictures. I'll have more to glassbead next week. God knows there's a LOT to do.
OGreaTFuzzY1
09-29-2008, 11:57 PM
awesome dude, how time to clean that engine up some huh
~Fuzzy :p
zxtwou2
09-29-2008, 11:57 PM
too bad you are in Oregon...i could have powderoated that stuff for ya.
koihoshi
09-30-2008, 12:05 AM
awesome dude, how time to clean that engine up some huh
~Fuzzy :p
oh god you have no idea. i got sick of looking at the rust. it's less overwhelming to look at a CLEAN enginebay.
koihoshi
09-30-2008, 11:18 PM
Tried some more things tonight and having no luck. Some guys from the 924board.org boards had recommended i have a switch hooked up wrong or not at all, and that was correct. I got the entire switching system hooked up right and there is still no action at the fuel pump. I may be missing something blatantly obvious. I will check when there is some light outside, i can't see shit in the engine bay right now.
TTFOWIA
10-01-2008, 05:23 AM
http://www.kaitaia.com/funny/g2/d/9843-2/red_x.jpg
00zx2s/r
10-01-2008, 06:57 AM
SUBSCRIBED! People like you make me jealous...
Buster
10-01-2008, 07:01 AM
Making good progress. Great news that the engine is not seized.
Yep, be sure to get that wiring done so you won't lose the car in a fire from the fine German-engineered wiring that they're infamous for. :D
koihoshi
10-01-2008, 03:24 PM
Ok so here's the possibilities. After my testing which has been the following. Here's a diagram of how the fuel system goes together.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/untitled-1.jpg
So here is what I tested:
- Tested the main connector going to the fuel pump. Gets 12v flashes as the key turns over. So that part works.
- Pulled fuel distributor out, checked it, bone dry.
- Checked all switches and vacuum to ensure that they were hooked up. At this time all hoses hooked up to metering valve are hooked up.
- Checked my fuses, they all look great. However, some connections have some corrosion. I may look into getting a fusebox at a place like autozone or napa, and updating it with more modern fuses, and rewiring the box my own way. These fuses are hard to find, primitive, and i don't feel like rewiring the box when i can get a pre-wired box and attach the connections. Other than that, most my stuff works.
- tested connection to the fuel pump switch at the metering valve and it tested nothing. i'm not sure if the circuit on the ignition has to be turning over, i will test this tonight. if it is then this confirms my suspicion that my circuitry is fine, and that my fuel pump is bad.
koihoshi
10-01-2008, 03:26 PM
Making good progress. Great news that the engine is not seized.
Yep, be sure to get that wiring done so you won't lose the car in a fire from the fine German-engineered wiring that they're infamous for. :D
It's funny you would say that. I've spent a good portion of hours on end redoing many of the grounds, recrimping and rewiring. The fusebox, on the other hand, is a nightmare.
By nightmare I mean that if you put my ex wife, pigeons with diarrhea, hillary clinton, a bad acid trip, top it off with a screaming baby and being stabbed in the face.... it would be similar to that, only to wake up and go "AHHHH OMFG what the HELL was that?" that's sort of what it's like to my mind when i look in the fuse box, it's overwhelming and scary.
Take the fuses out and check a resistance check(ohm it out). If a higher number comes out with a DVOM then you know its broken inside. The resistance should be like .01 nothing at all since thats a good fuse...a bad fuse would be like anything really higher than that. Also take a hammer and beat on the gas tank as you turn the key over. Your fuel pump could be frozen some what and could not be working. We would do this all the time to get a car started to get it in the shop. I am guessing this is a electric fuel pump and you dont have a mechanical type setup on this.
koihoshi
10-01-2008, 03:54 PM
Yes, electric fuel pump. I'll bang on it with a hammer when i get home while cranking it and see if that's the case. My old boss said the same thing, that he's seen fuel pumps go seized from that and had to be "knocked loose" and that it would seem like it was dead, but just "stuck".
If you can get to the fuel pump just wack(not super hard) it a couple of times with a rubber mallet. Other than that just hit the gas tank a couple of times. What happens with gas is it becomes varnish after awhile and with this gives it almost a lacquer finish clogging up the passages. With this it become "stuck/Frozen". Typically we would replace it if this were to happen at based on the reliability of the system decreases its value.
koihoshi
10-02-2008, 12:53 PM
Timing belt and accessories belt. Total: $16.49.
(edit) If only the ZX2 were that cheap!
Buster
10-03-2008, 12:20 PM
Who would've guessed that Porsche parts could be less than Ford parts? :D
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koihoshi
10-04-2008, 10:45 PM
FUEL PUMP IS WORKING NOW!
I disassembled the frontend portion of it only to find out that it had entirely bound up from gas that had varnished and literally locked up the moving pieces. Nothing a little choke cleaner and armstrong, rags and patience couldn't fix. I'm not quite 100% done cleaning it yet but i will be tomorrow.
I drained the tank, only to find gas that was so old it had quite literally turned a dark dark dark yellow and smelled like a cross between nail polish remover, gasoline, and oil and glue. So nasty it made me sick to my stomach.
I hooked it up to the battery on my Ducati and sure enough, SPINNING action! This pump is good to go!
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/DSC_0281.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/DSC_0280.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/DSC_0279.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/DSC_0278.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/DSC_0277.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/DSC_0276.jpg
So if spark is coming tomorrow and the rest the fuel system works great, looks like we'll be good to go!
OGreaTFuzzY1
10-04-2008, 11:10 PM
yayz
~Fuzzy
Midwestzx2
10-04-2008, 11:46 PM
Awsome man, keep it up.
koihoshi
10-05-2008, 12:00 AM
Thanks guys. Hopefully tomorrow she runs.
joshalabama
10-05-2008, 12:09 AM
Get us some pics of the cleaned up engine bay.
koihoshi
10-05-2008, 12:10 AM
Tomorrow.
I have a lot of the brackets and the timing belt cover to install, new hose, etc.
I don't think you've all seen it since i sprayed out the engine bay and got rid of the pine needles and all the spider webs out of it LOL!
corybok
10-05-2008, 12:44 AM
that is lookin clean from what you've shown, you gotta post those engine bay pics up asap
koihoshi
10-05-2008, 12:45 AM
Don't worry :) i'll get pics tomorrow.
OGreaTFuzzY1
10-05-2008, 02:07 AM
no get pixs now!!!
~Fuzzy
koihoshi
10-05-2008, 04:44 PM
IT RUNS!
It starts, idles, runs, drives, shifts works, starts and stops!
Pics and video to come later tonight! It's currently parked in my garage going through ALL the fluids.
OGreaTFuzzY1
10-05-2008, 04:46 PM
yayz man cant wait to see videos of it running :D
~Fuzzy
Beodude123
10-05-2008, 04:54 PM
Sounds good man. Good work!
00zx2s/r
10-05-2008, 05:40 PM
AHHHHHHHHHH can't wait for vids!
joshalabama
10-05-2008, 06:37 PM
I am extremely excited.
corybok
10-05-2008, 08:21 PM
Today, is a day that will live in infamy.
koihoshi
10-05-2008, 08:30 PM
Ok the youtube video is uploading.
It's running driving and shifting just fine. I'm still having a headache with the stupid damn headlight motor but I'll figure it out.
Good thing is... it's working GREAT! I am having an issue with the brakes not coming back, i think the pistons are freezing. Tomorrow I will fix that. Once I have that fixed, she should be road worthy :) I need to make a switch bypass to bypass the actual cold start sensor. These cars have a history that once the car is warm, the thermal sensor will kick off after a couple seconds and hot starts can become a bitch as the cold start injector won't spray enough fuel. Well... you'll understand in the video...
Vid to come in a few.
Congrats..did you just end up hitting the fuel pump?
koihoshi
10-05-2008, 08:35 PM
No. Actually... If you look back previous page, it ended up being that the fuel pump had been bound and held up by a bunch of fuel varnish and krud ultimately. Nothing some carb cleaner and armstrong couldn't fix :)
Nice bro..glad to hear that its working..if you need anything else you know how to pm,aim, e-mail, call, batman signal..you know the way
koihoshi
10-05-2008, 08:43 PM
Yeah thanks for the advice man :)
Beodude123
10-05-2008, 08:45 PM
I wants it now!
PHeller
10-05-2008, 08:51 PM
Isn't it great to have a project car that isn't your DD? You can actually take your time and have fun working on it!
koihoshi
10-05-2008, 08:53 PM
Indeed! Now I can do whatever I want, take my time and make sure it's done right :)
koihoshi
10-05-2008, 08:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaZodnrhDtk
:)
corby_baby
10-05-2008, 09:03 PM
gnarly
Beodude123
10-05-2008, 09:06 PM
Congrats!
oxfordwtZX2
10-05-2008, 09:32 PM
Yea...that's pretty awesome.....looks like it'll be fun to get really digging into that thing. Lots 'o work done already, which is always good......have fun and congrats on making the beast come to life!!!!
00zx2s/r
10-06-2008, 05:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaZodnrhDtk
:)
AHHhh I hate school firewall's and shit...
Buster
10-06-2008, 06:32 AM
Congrats! Going to sell it now? ;)
BlackEscortGT
10-06-2008, 10:06 AM
glad to see you got it running. thats cool.
Waterboy9000
10-06-2008, 10:37 AM
lol
"hot starts a bitch!"
koihoshi
10-06-2008, 12:45 PM
lol
"hot starts a bitch!"
lol it is. what happens with this car is it has a thermal time sensor. when it is cold it tells the cold start injector to spray extra fuel in the intake manifold to start the car when it's cold. it actually works well because when the car finally has fuel pressure you don't have to put your foot down at all. Turn the key, it runs.
What happens is that this cold start injector will run for an extra 5 or so seconds just to make it run happy.
The problem is that when its HOT the thermal time sensor says "Sorry but your engine is hot, i'll give you 1 second, it should start." but the system may have lost it's pressure a bit or retracted in the accumulator. What will then happen is it'll start your car for 1 or 2 seconds, back off and stop spraying fuel on the cold start injector before the car can build enough pressure, sputter and then run for a second and die. It's kind of like it wants to fuck with you.... "Hi i'm starting OH LOOK i'm running! naw i'm just kidding with ya."
We have fixed the seals around the injectors and i've also checked the sensors around the car as well as the distributor. There are NO fuel leaks on this car. The only conclusion is that the fuel filter is probably bad or the system needs a real good cleansing before it'll maintain the pressure /correctly/ and not retract.
The work around for this is a wire setup which creates a loop on both points of the thermal time sensor which actually lets you MANUALLY turn on the cold start injector. So you flip the switch, start the car, let it run for 5 seconds, turn it off and you're good to go.
koihoshi
10-06-2008, 12:46 PM
Congrats! Going to sell it now? ;)
Not a chance. Now it gets restored and gets a serious makeover and a happy place in my stable :)
koihoshi
10-07-2008, 02:38 PM
MORE parts on the way.
Part Number Part Type Price EA Core EA Quantity Total
1977 PORSCHE 924 2.0L 1983cc L4 MFI (2)
94442423101 Gear Shift Lever Components $ 2.16 $ 0.00 1 $ 2.16
01026 Contact Set $ 3.79 $ 0.00 1 $ 3.79
BECK/ARNLEY 1580020 (158-0020) Fuel Injector O-Ring $ 1.07 $ 0.00 4 $ 4.28
BECK/ARNLEY 0361244 Valve Cover Gasket Set $ 4.50 $ 0.00 1 $ 4.50
BOSCH 09020 Spark Plug Wire Set $ 25.79 $ 0.00 1 $ 25.79
BOSCH 04038 Distributor Rotor $ 2.62 $ 0.00 1 $ 2.62
DASHMAT 8065400 (80654-00-25) Dash Board Cover $ 30.79 $ 0.00 1 $ 30.79
STANDARD MOTOR PRODUCTS GB423T Distributor Cap $ 3.98 $ 0.00 1 $ 3.98
STANDARD MOTOR PRODUCTS UF95 Ignition Coil $ 35.79 $ 0.00 1 $ 35.79
Shipping Location 1 Ground $ 7.46
Shipping Location 2 Ground $ 15.52
Shipping Location 3 Ground $ 6.92
Shipping Location 4 Ground $ 7.44
Order Total $ 151.04
Somebody is going through rockauto.com lol
koihoshi
10-07-2008, 11:03 PM
Well I went through the car tonight and was going to start ripping it apart in the interior but I ended up finishing my fusebox. Only to find out something is still majorly wrong. The headlights were working again tonight, then suddenly stopped after i moved the fusebox back into place. It would seem that I have a major wiring issue at the fuse box. My guess is going to be it's the back of the fuseback due to moving it seems to make things sporadically work and not work. This is probably what is causing my wiper issues, headlight issues, and headlight motor issues.
On a happier note, the car quite literally turned right over tonight at the turn of the key, didn't have to give it throttle or anything.
Related... I keep putting it in 4th instead of 1st gear as the gears are all pretty close together and i'm used to the escort's BIG jump in shifting, this is a much smaller and tighter move for the gears which i'm having difficulty getting used to LOL.
Hell yeah Derrek...this kicks arse....
ilarson007
10-09-2008, 03:29 PM
This is a sweet project. Subscribed. I'd love to have an old school Porsche. The best part about doing all this work is that you'll like it that much more when it's finished cause you poured all your own work into it... It's not like writing a check for $10-30k+ and having someone else do it.
lamouche98zx2
10-09-2008, 07:33 PM
it could be like some 80-90 vw fusebox that the connections broke inside the box and random problem happen. i did have that problem with a 88 fox back in that time.... but for me it's the fuel pomp relay that was running randomly...
slammmed
10-11-2008, 04:34 AM
awesome progress koihosi. I found this other 944 project and thought you might be interested.
http://www.genmay.com/showthread.php?t=784430
Beodude123
10-11-2008, 07:08 AM
Sounds like there is a broken wire or five underneath your fuse box. Look for something grounding out. Do you have a multimeter?
koihoshi
10-11-2008, 01:12 PM
Hey thanks all. glad you're all enjoying this. I'll try and post some more progress this weekend. This fusebox is going to be a real bitch.
I do have a multimeter (few of them actually, analog and digital) so i'll hunt it down. I'll post pics as i'll be cleaning up the engine bay (sorry i never got around to that) and give it a wash and wax. Going to see if the fender damage is repairable or not. i am having NO luck finding a replacement fender.
koihoshi
10-12-2008, 10:05 PM
Ok removing the sound deadening tonight, wheel grinding down the floorpan to get the rust out. I removed all the carpet and took it down to the pressure washer. All but the last piece of carpet which sits in the front by your feet. It was amazing to see how much crap came out of the carpet...
The piece of carpet in the back seems to be a lost cause as it's entirely covered in mold/mildew and even after degreaser and a good amount of time in the pressure washer still isn't any better. It smells better, but still is stained and not that great.
I cleaned up the engine bay a bit. Before you go "ehhhh that's not THAT great" let me show you a picture of what I started with.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4391.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4392.jpg
And now, the progress as of today.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4698.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4697.jpg
Lots of progress to go. Will post more pics tomorrow. I'm coming down with something and am starting to feel like crap and am feeling puny and my muscles are weak and crappy so I must be catching whatever is going around here. So there won't be a LOT of progress but i'll still be putting out quality haha.
Buster
10-13-2008, 08:52 AM
Looks a LOT better. Good progress. Keep it up!
Hopefully your project doesn't die when the temperature drops...SOON! :D
koihoshi
10-13-2008, 10:41 PM
Looks a LOT better. Good progress. Keep it up!
Hopefully your project doesn't die when the temperature drops...SOON! :D
I have a HEATED GARAGE! :D and NEW INSULATION! Hell no!
On top of that I got these parts today:
New distributor cap, distributor rotor, ignition contact, spark plug wires, ignition coil (exceeds OEM expectations), seat runners, hatch locks, gasket set, fuel injector seals.
I may stay home sick tomorrow, i feel like shit. So it may not get done till later this week.
But she'll be running like a champ! :)
capitalcrew
10-13-2008, 10:43 PM
Did you ever decide on paint.?
koihoshi
10-13-2008, 10:45 PM
I put a poll up on my website, so far the consensus is black with silver flake.
I still haven't decided.
koihoshi
10-13-2008, 11:08 PM
Curious, does anyone have hookups for cross drilled rotors? I need new rotors and I want to get some GOOD rotors :)
ZX2guy19
10-13-2008, 11:19 PM
r1concepts in our sponsor section.
koihoshi
10-13-2008, 11:20 PM
And they made Porsche parts? Hmmm i'll ask.
ZX2guy19
10-13-2008, 11:28 PM
I'm not sure
So what is the total cost up to so far?
mellowness65
10-13-2008, 11:32 PM
http://www.r1concepts.com/
I would've plugged your stats in but I'm not quite sure of them on the car
Edit:http://store.r1concepts.com/Items/Item.aspx?SKU=pmf09500%20-%20120.37005&caSKU=pmf09500%20-%20120.37005&caTitle=PORSCHE%20924%2076-84%20Brake%20Rotors%20-%20Premium%20Series%20-%20Front
based on guessing of course
koihoshi
10-13-2008, 11:32 PM
Total:
Porsche 924 - $750
Fuel injection pieces - $90
Center Console and Seat Runners - $77
Lamp Lense and Hatch Locks - $35
Parts from rock auto (see previous invoice) - $150
Timing belt and accessory belt - $16.54
Lubricants, sprays, consumables - $25
Battery, oil, fluids - $110
Total: $1253.54.
koihoshi
10-13-2008, 11:34 PM
http://www.r1concepts.com/
I would've plugged your stats in but I'm not quite sure of them on the car
Edit:http://store.r1concepts.com/Items/Item.aspx?SKU=pmf09500%20-%20120.37005&caSKU=pmf09500%20-%20120.37005&caTitle=PORSCHE%20924%2076-84%20Brake%20Rotors%20-%20Premium%20Series%20-%20Front
based on guessing of course
Yeah I just found it...
Holy jesus how ridiculous (http://store.r1concepts.com/Items/Item.aspx?SKU=pmf09500%20-%20120.37005&caSKU=pmf09500%20-%20120.37005&caTitle=PORSCHE%20924%2076-84%20Brake%20Rotors%20-%20Premium%20Series%20-%20Front). I know I can find better. I can find OE's for $50-80.
ZX2guy19
10-13-2008, 11:36 PM
Check our sponsor section. Ask for Kevin, he gives them to us for $60 shipped front and $60 shipped rear for the ZX2. Tell him you are from Teamzx2 and I'm sure he'll give you a good deal.
mellowness65
10-13-2008, 11:36 PM
call and talk to someone, from what I understand they hook most ppl up on here, sam's the guy's name iirc
ZX2guy19
10-13-2008, 11:37 PM
Shit you're right, it's Sam.
koihoshi
10-13-2008, 11:39 PM
I'll check it out tomorrow. But $211 per rotor is asinine ridiculous for spec rotors with slots and drill holes in them. Rock auto has beck arnley rotors for $36 a pop OE. Something is wrong with this picture when some slots and drill holes cost an extra $160 more than OEM.
koihoshi
10-14-2008, 12:32 AM
Consensus of a few people off the 924 board who have done autocross is that they actually are worse for a performance setup on these cars after having being tested. looks like ventilated is a better choice, or slotted, or just OEM, period...
koihoshi
10-14-2008, 11:35 AM
seat rails and center console came today :)
koihoshi
10-16-2008, 05:27 PM
Tail lamp lense and brackets and hatch locks came today.
koihoshi
10-17-2008, 12:21 PM
dash piece delayed 3 weeks :(
ZX2guy19
10-17-2008, 12:26 PM
Damn man that sucks. But, I guess you have to expect some set backs. Thing thing is lookin fresh. Keeping it stock color?
koihoshi
10-17-2008, 12:47 PM
Black is the original, black it will be. I am considering, however, adding some silver flake to it. But then again, black looks pretty sinister, and the more i drive by it every morning parked there, the more I like just plain black.
ilarson007
10-17-2008, 02:49 PM
I just want to yell you both: Good luck, we're all counting on you.
But on another note, this car is sweet. Keep up the work.
koihoshi
10-17-2008, 04:25 PM
Thanks man. I'd be working on it every night if it weren't for my being sick right now :(
good news is that i'm starting to feel normal, other than really weak muscles. However, this weekend I should have a shit ton of stuff installed and having this car ON THE ROAD! I'm downing more vitamin and herbal supplements than i ever have. Not to mention a shitload of theraflu.
However I'm tired of yanking the seats and installing them, yanking them, and installing them. So I'm pulling them once and for all, doing this weight reduction, grinding the floorpan down, coating it, reinstalling the carpet and we'll call it good.
ilarson007
10-17-2008, 09:44 PM
what are you sick with? I seem to have caught one of those never ending coughs, as well as my seasonal allergies that won't go away until the first hard frost.
koihoshi
10-17-2008, 10:06 PM
The flu or a virus. Muscle pain, ache and fatigue, the shivers, stomach cramps, headache, nose issues. All kinds of fun stuff.
koihoshi
10-19-2008, 05:24 PM
A small teaser pic or two of one of many things I completed today.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4708.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4709.jpg
koihoshi
10-20-2008, 12:56 PM
Ok guys. The car is puffing white smoke..... I guess I'm going to have to pull the head and check it out. Arg....
On the flip side, I'll have more than teaser pics today. I'm doing more weight reduction, as you can see I rewired the ignition system and am still working on a lot more things. Weight reduction is time consuming, ugh.
koihoshi
10-20-2008, 02:35 PM
False alarm on the smoke. Turned out to be massive amounts of condensation in the exhaust. We have a clear exhaust now. Still running a little bit rough on the sides though. Seems like it's still misfiring once in a while and very shaky at idle. Sounds great when it's above 1500rpms. I'm thinking it could be a distributor problem. Thankfully i have a new cap, contacts and rotor for it. I'm not gonna do that today though. I've worked on this car literally every day i've had off the last month and a half, i'm taking a day off to chill and play some video games.
ilarson007
10-20-2008, 08:15 PM
...chill and play some video games.
lol, what's that? I haven't turned on my playstation since last month.
Good thing on that smoke though. Hopefully you'll get all your electrical problems sorted out....
koihoshi
10-25-2008, 05:38 PM
Brakes failed the other day.
Pedal went to the floor.
When I finally bled them I found that there was air coming up on passenger side, and the driver's side bled just fine. Ideas? It seems like it's just sucking in air up to the caliper.
oxfordwtZX2
10-25-2008, 07:34 PM
Maybe the seals in the caliper? O-rings in the caliper piston? Maybe a small pin hole in a line pushing out a tiny bit of fluid and sucking in a tiny bit of air......it's looking good though man. Happy to see you are getting this car put back together so well.....
koihoshi
10-26-2008, 07:14 PM
Well low and behold my dad came over to wrench on the Porsche for a little while for me. Him and I haven't worked on a car together since I was a kid. Good times.
I got the new distributor rotor and cap on and we rewired some more stuff.
The brakes are going to need some parts, figured out the caliper needs some work. So I got out my airbrush and went at my emblems and cleaned up the garage. Apparently I can still airbrush quite well :)
Note the dirty nasty emblem.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4396.jpg
Refinished and redone in my own blend of paint mix. Ended up being a silver metallic. I had contemplated adding in some pearl but thought "eh naw that looks fine."
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/DSC_0060.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/DSC_0061.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/DSC_0062.jpg
koihoshi
10-26-2008, 07:21 PM
Oh yeah I forgot to mention I fixed the tail light too...
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4701.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/IMG_4702.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/DSC_0066.jpg
ilarson007
10-26-2008, 07:21 PM
Those emblems are sweet. Now you gotta find a new taillight assembly.
ilarson007
10-26-2008, 07:22 PM
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand you beat me to it.
koihoshi
10-26-2008, 07:26 PM
See i'm quick like that. I wrench that fast!
Beodude123
10-26-2008, 08:23 PM
Looks good man. Keep it up!
Just out of curiosity, what kind of power do these things make?
koihoshi
10-26-2008, 08:28 PM
Depends on the year and the model. This year, first year they were made in the USA were dumbed down in power from head work and pistons so they couldn't compete with the 911 so they made 95hp stock. Later models made in the 100s, the euro version made 125hp (these are dyno'd numbers) and the turbos made even more.
However, it is not hard to rebuild the motor to euro spec, wake it up, and improve the power, they have a lot of potential and a lot of it is in the head work.
Wonderful list of things to do (http://jenniferandjon.com/ABRacing/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=18&Itemid=44) at that link to get it down to faster.
will 89' calipers work?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsche-924-76-82-Rebuilt-Front-Calipers-NR_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a570Q7c66Q3a2Q7 c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0 Q2em14QQhashZitem230303153415QQitemZ230303153415
pretty good price there!
ilarson007
10-27-2008, 01:25 PM
See i'm quick like that. I wrench that fast!
Come work on my car ;)
koihoshi
10-28-2008, 02:48 AM
will 89' calipers work?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsche-924-76-82-Rebuilt-Front-Calipers-NR_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a570Q7c66Q3a2Q7 c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0 Q2em14QQhashZitem230303153415QQitemZ230303153415
pretty good price there!
good price but not entirely sure. i'll have to research a bit.
commerford
11-08-2008, 06:49 AM
KoiHoshi, who art in Oregon,
hallowed be thy name.
Thy Kingdom come,
thy will be done,
in your garage as it is in Stuttgart
Give us this day our daily update.
And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us.
You've lead us into temptation,
and are thus obliged to deliver new photos.
For thine is the Porsche, in its power and glory.
Keep us updated. for ever and ever.
koihoshi
11-08-2008, 11:03 AM
Hahahahaha that is the funniest post I think I've ever read!
Yeah sorry about no recent updates. With my being sick, my insanity at work, my ticket and then my dad almost dying you could say things are a tad busy around here....
HOWEVER, I got some brake parts on the way, should be here MONDAY and I have an entire week off for vacation. So the Porsche will be in the garage, I will finish the weight reduction (pics to come on that), as well as some other goodies. I have plans to yank most the stuff off the motor and polish it up and then put it all back on.
PS: Does anyone have a junkyard with a passenger side fender for a 77' Porsche 924? Don't care about the color... as long as there is no damage.
Beodude123
11-10-2008, 06:47 AM
How much weight reduction have you done?
koihoshi
11-11-2008, 02:07 PM
How much weight reduction have you done?
Misc engine brackets
Sound deadening (in progress)
Matting
All emissions and unnecessary components that come with
Tools and kits, mounts that come with
More to go.
Went to the Porsche dealership yesterday to talk parts and one of the dealers and I got into a conversation about the 924 lol. I had no idea these cars were hand made, so that made me even happier. Made me relate to the Ducati.
I'm actually headed to the garage after posting this to see if i can fix the brakes and get it's first road test today. Errrr second road test (but first that doesn't have the brakes fail) heh...
koihoshi
11-11-2008, 06:32 PM
Success!
I got the brakes to work! The caliper was simply stuck. I was able to get it freed up and there were no leaks or seal issues *WHOOHOO!*.
I ran out of 10mm bolts and was unable to get the seats in to go drive it, however, they work!!!!!
You can see that they were pretty rusty. But thanks to a polishing wheel i got the rust off of it.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/DSC_0108.jpg
Pic of the caliper (and the fluid FINALLY coming out!)
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/DSC_0110.jpg
koihoshi
11-12-2008, 08:05 PM
Today was a wonderful day! Me and my buddy took the car for it's first successful drive. Just to prove it, pic of me filling it up. The first time in 10 years this car has gone to a gas station.
The kid at the gas station was a little into p-cars and was pretty excited to hear the story of how it went from a trailored in pile to a car that now runs, drives, and is being restored. So i told him he was the first person to fill it up in 10 years haha.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/koihoshi/porsche/cid_612.jpg
The rotors were gunked up and i figured they were no good. I decided "Well hell, i'm gonna see if i can get them back to "normal"... hehe" and me and my buddy went through some VERY HARD stops. In the end, we ended up smelling what smelled like burning rubber and could not for the life of us figure out what it was till we started seeing smoke when we were at low speed. I got it home and the rotors were glowing bright fucking red! After we started pouring water on the smoking rotors (because there was still crap on them and i'd rather fuck up some bad rotors, than have them light crap on fire from the heat) we noticed they were nice and smooth... all the crap was gone, they were just smoking.
I wished to god i had took a picture but i was a little bit afraid of something catching fire.... :-/ either way, good times.
SHE IS ON THE ROAD!
Midwestzx2
11-12-2008, 08:15 PM
Awesome man keep it up!
ilarson007
11-12-2008, 08:54 PM
nice...
Blue ZX2
11-12-2008, 09:55 PM
sweet ballz!
zxtwou2
11-12-2008, 11:08 PM
i fully expect you to start club racing, vintage racing, and autoX racing this car now :D
koihoshi
11-12-2008, 11:09 PM
What? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
It's a Porsche! they're delicate... and tender... and.... (i'm kidding)
Yeah once I can get the brakes, rotors, and all the goodies in tip top shape that i am confident in the reliability of this car you can bet on it! None going on this time of year, so i've got ALLLLL winter to prep it for next season :)
zxtwou2
11-12-2008, 11:12 PM
there's a ton of porche clubs, too....club racing would be awesome, if there are any road tracks near you. vintage road racing and hill climbs would be a blast as well! if all else fails...autoX if pretty fun :dance:
koihoshi
11-12-2008, 11:14 PM
I did autox in the z back when it was stock. Tons of fun. But not for long because i had to sell the mustang and didn't want to beat up the z. There is that new race track up near moppin that will be done by spring :) MUAHAHA!
Beodude123
11-13-2008, 04:18 PM
Congrats dude. Way to bring it to the streets.
deadbuzzard
11-13-2008, 04:51 PM
YEAHYEAHYEAHYEAHYEAHYEAHYEAH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CONGRATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! now time for vids
koihoshi
11-13-2008, 10:01 PM
Well. I knew i should have replaced the accessory and timing belt sooner. I took it for the big drive today to show my dad. Along the way I hear a "BANG" like something hit my hood.
"Funny... it feels fine". The car didn't handle different. Motor didn't run different. No loss of power. All the sudden I see the temperature gauge going up... and up.... and up... pegged.... "FUCK!"
I drove for just barely less than a mile, pulled over in a safe spot. Smoke all over the place. I had thought, head gasket... upon popping the hood the accessory belt had snapped, along with the drain hose missing it was pouring coolant all over everything and steaming (hence the smoke).
My dad got another belt, came over, we changed it, got it fixed. Drive back was heaven.
Engine didn't act funny or do anything odd, didn't seem to overheat so I don't think any damage was done (thank god) but man that sucked...
Buster
11-14-2008, 09:33 AM
Ah well, maybe the smoke loosened up some rust. ;)
Glad there was no permanent damage done.
joshalabama
11-14-2008, 09:38 AM
Seriously, sounds for a second like it could have been a little traumatizing.
koihoshi
11-16-2008, 03:48 PM
Eh, it's ok. All is well in the world of Porsche here :)
I have tomorrow off so I may work on it a bit and install the new brakepads and check the rotors and maybe have them turned.
Beodude123
11-19-2008, 11:56 AM
Dang man, that was a definite close call. Do you have a timing belt or chain? I can't remember if you changed it or not, but if you haven't... It might not be a bad idea.
koihoshi
11-22-2008, 02:58 PM
Timing belt. Already bought the belt and accessory belt. Was just ironic the belt broke before i wanted to change it. Hah!
Anyway. The quest for a passenger fender may have been conquered and completed. I am still doing correspondence via phone with the guy but i found a good fender that is fine with no dents and just needs paint.
(edit) Deal is in the bag, I am picking it up monday! WHOOHOO!
Beodude123
11-22-2008, 03:07 PM
Nice!
koihoshi
11-30-2008, 09:37 PM
Got a Fender and a stock steering wheel in GREAT shape. Pics in the morning.
koihoshi
12-01-2008, 07:02 PM
Got sidetracked with fixing the brakes, no pics, sorry lol. However, I got new metallic pads from Axxis on today. My car is loving it!
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