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JonsZX2SR
08-05-2008, 08:03 PM
Let them pay for their own damn reconstruction and pay for security as well...

Iraq expected to have an $80B surplus (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/05/iraq.oil/index.html) from oil exports. I'd like to hear what both Obama and McCain have to say. at the very least we ought to get free oil equal to the amount of $$ we poured in Iraq.

ZX2guy19
08-06-2008, 12:36 AM
Oiled dropped $5/barrel today. Sweet man. I agree though, this shit is getting out of hand.

DOUGIESTYL
08-06-2008, 04:19 AM
Fuckit. Nuke em, and add a star to our flag! Make Iraq our middle east state that produces oil (like TX, LA, AK, PA)!
What I'm saying is annex them bitches. They will prolly be here not too long after the withdrawal, anyway. Might as well make them citizens. God knows America can't invite too many new citizens.

krux
08-06-2008, 08:34 AM
Fuckit. Nuke em, and add a star to our flag! Make Iraq our middle east state that produces oil (like TX, LA, AK, PA)!
What I'm saying is annex them bitches. They will prolly be here not too long after the withdrawal, anyway. Might as well make them citizens. God knows America can't invite too many new citizens.

Truth

Buster
08-06-2008, 09:01 AM
We'd save a lot more if we stopped buying cigarettes and beer for the lazy people on welfare. :D

JonsZX2SR
08-06-2008, 10:58 AM
I suppose you could make the argument that if we cut off payments of this type we could afford to send boxcars of money overseas. :rolleyes:

Cost of benefits, including education, health payments, etc. to all households, including low income working households, was about $3750B for 2004.

For 2007 the cost of all programs (education, health, housing, not just alcohol and cigarettes) to non-working household was estimated around $450B. Cost of food stamp programs for 2009 is estimated to be about $34B.

Good thinking... Cutting off beer and cigarettes would hardly make a dent in the cost of petroleum imports.

It would be better to fix the balance of trade problems in the first place.

CraZx2ing
08-06-2008, 12:24 PM
Or tell honda to start making civic VXs (50mpg+) again and sell them for less than $8,000. Maybe add a hybrid option and sell it for $11,000 that gets 75mpg. I think that'd put honda as the #1 automaker and really lower america's need for fuel. Add in a program to trade in big trucks and suvs and send them to the recycle bin. Then we can use that as a hold over until new techs are more usable and cheaper. We could slowly start to turn off the tap of oil...

Buster
08-06-2008, 01:11 PM
We could slowly start to turn off the tap of oil...

Do you realize that pretty much everything you come in contact with daily is made of petroleum?

That computer you typed that message on, probably your computer chair, the inside of your refrigerator and all of the containers that hold your food, your car itself has plastic components, your shoes...the list is endless.

We can't get away from using oil. We have MORE than enough to sustain us if would drill for our own.

Oil is not the enemy, it's the politicians who won't let us use our own.