Mac Or PC?

[4.6stangrage]

I am Down with the Macintosh and also any other Apple product!

[capitalcrew]

Mac. Waiting for poll. (I know, it makes the thread first.)

[raceguy246]

Mac !

[4.6stangrage]

damn you guys are quick!

[ravensguildassasin]

windows based we will say windows xp with lightstep shell operator. it gets rid of the buggy windows explorer and uses lightstep. i have other things on my xp comp but do fell like listing them.

[inis]

aren't new macs windows based now?

[raceguy246]

aren't new macs windows based now?

silly... nope, they have intel processors tho

[capitalcrew]

No. They have just been made capable of running windows.

[raceguy246]

No. They have just been made capable of running windows.

yeah, that too

[krux]

windows

[inis]

no no, I'm pretty sure new mac's are run on EFI , in which is a form of windows bios. I swear I read this somewhere.

[5spdzx2]

http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/3097/macvspcbikepj2.jpg

[raceguy246]

no no, I'm pretty sure new mac's are run on EFI , in which is a form of windows bios. I swear I read this somewhere.

hmmmmmm... well thats above my head.... someone find out tho

[capitalcrew]

EFI goes along with using intel processors. It was developed by intel. It does NOT make a mac windows based.

[SnowBoardinWNY]

Mac is not a form of windows and I didn't grab that anywhere but it doesn't even sound logical lol.

MAC FTMFW none the less

[raceguy246]

wait, my Mac has Electronic Fuel Injection?

[Loser47]

Please tell me im not the only Linux user on this site! Mandriva 08 ftw. seriously download the live cd you will be amazed(and converted)

[capitalcrew]

You're not the lone linux user, don't worry.

[5spdzx2]

wait, my Mac has Electronic Fuel Injection?

No, PC does. Your mac is still carburated.

[Loser47]

mandriva is turboed

[carguy07]

i use windows vista and haven't had an issue with it. and no matter what, Bill Gates wins when you run microsoft office on the Mac.

[capitalcrew]

You don't need to run Microsoft office on the mac, mac has their own version.

[5spdzx2]

You don't need to run Microsoft office on the mac, mac has their own version.

Its just that Microsoft is better. :winkyface:

[capitalcrew]

Its just that microsoft is more widely known and used..

[5spdzx2]

Its just that microsoft is more widely known and used..

Which makes it the winner..and in turn better. :judge:

[CSCustomCars]

Mac. Mac. Mac. Mac. Mac. Mac. Mac. Mac. Mac.

I say again.

Mac.

Never had a single problem with it, except when my cat spilled soda on the keyboard (It was a mac book pro too, freeking cat). Fried it good. Been stuck with a PC ever since and still hating this damn eMachines, cause they all suck. I'd probably be just as happy with an alienware than as a mac, but... Mac. I still want that bastard back.

[capitalcrew]

Haha. I wouldn't go that far. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion though.

[5spdzx2]

Mac. Mac. Mac. Mac. Mac. Mac. Mac. Mac. Mac.

I say again.

Mac.

Never had a single problem with it, except when my cat spilled soda on the keyboard (It was a mac book pro too, freeking cat). Fried it good. Been stuck with a PC ever since and still hating this damn eMachines, cause they all suck. I'd probably be just as happy with an alienware than as a mac, but... Mac. I still want that bastard back.

eMachines are the worst of the worst. I feel bad that you have to use one.

[ravensguildassasin]

as far as linux goes i use linspire or dinabolic.

[Manbearpig]

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u134/chrism623/funny/1196295050373.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u134/chrism623/funny/1196291781312.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u134/chrism623/funny/1196290437637.jpg

[Manbearpig]

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u134/chrism623/funny/1196293048961.jpg

[5spdzx2]

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u134/chrism623/funny/1196293048961.jpg

Ha!

[CSCustomCars]

eMachines are the worst of the worst. I feel bad that you have to use one.

It was cheap and All i can afford right now. And it's on ther verge of dieing anyway... Gonna have to get a new one soon.

Can't wait for the day I cn get my macbook pro again, or an alienware.

[capitalcrew]

http://www.apple.com/macosx/technology/unix.html

Your last two posts seem contradicting Chris.

[CSCustomCars]

http://www.apple.com/macosx/technology/unix.html

Your last two posts seem contradicting Chris.

Are you talking to me? I'm confused...

[capitalcrew]

haha no, Manbearpig.

He said Unix never crashes.. but then he said macs crash. :shrug: leopard=unix.

[CSCustomCars]

haha no, Manbearpig.

He said Unix never crashes.. but then he said macs crash. :shrug: leopard=unix.

Okay okay... I figured there had to be at least two more chris's watching this thread....

[5spdzx2]

It was cheap and All i can afford right now. And it's on ther verge of dieing anyway... Gonna have to get a new one soon.

Can't wait for the day I cn get my macbook pro again, or an alienware.

My laptop is a Gateway, but it also says eMachines on the inside. So I know that its one step above eMachines. (gateway makes them) I hate this damn laptop, but I'm building a top end desktop for around 700 bucks. (quad core, 1066 fsb etc.) Something you cant do with a mac, which is the point. PC is the only computer you can completely build and customize on your own. (posted for relation to the original post)

[Manbearpig]

My posts never contradict each other.

:lol:

[Manbearpig]

Oh and BTW I'd rather have a E-Machines over a Sony/Dell/Compaq/HP any day.

Less software and much less $$$.

[capitalcrew]

I'm aware of the customization limitations of Mac and I am disappointed. I can't tell you how much I love my macbook though.

[5spdzx2]

Oh and BTW I'd rather have a E-Machines over a Sony/Dell/Compaq/HP any day.

Less software and much less $$$.

Out of what you posted...I would rather have a high end gateway or an IBM...or Lenovo. Dells' suck something awful.

[capitalcrew]

Agreed on that.

[Buster]

Oh and BTW I'd rather have a E-Machines over a Sony/Dell/Compaq/HP any day.

Less software and much less $$$.

WOW. The one e-Machines PC I had was total junk.

They're down there with Packard Bells. :D



I have XP and Linux. I can't vote for both. :(

[WildBuzz]

I'll never buy a pre-made computer (except laptops if I were to need a new one). I've been building my own since I was 10, and I switched over to Ubuntu Linux about a year ago and have been very happy with it. Even have it running on my parents computer because it's that easy to use and since it doesn't have any problems like Window's does sometimes for no reason, don't get tech support calls anymore. They aren't tech savvy by any means, and just have it set up to run the things they need, works beautifully.

[Sk00t3r]

I'll never buy a pre-made computer (except laptops if I were to need a new one). I've been building my own since I was 10, and I switched over to Ubuntu Linux about a year ago and have been very happy with it. Even have it running on my parents computer because it's that easy to use and since it doesn't have any problems like Window's does sometimes for no reason, don't get tech support calls anymore. They aren't tech savvy by any means, and just have it set up to run the things they need, works beautifully.

Same here, I hate windows its bad enough I have to use it to chat on this site while at work lol. At home i have 3 pc's, 2 which run OpenSuse and the other is Ubuntu, never had a problem with either of them. If I had to pic between Mac or Windows...MAC straight up. Linux/Unix FTMFW!

[capitalcrew]

I'll never buy another desktop. Laptops are where its at, and if I MUST have a desktop I will definitely build my own.

[Jesusfrk611]

I've tried out Linux with several different distros and never really go into it. I use Windows because of program compatibility. Show me a decent video editing software that is compatible with Linux...I haven't found one yet... I use Sony Vegas Pro 8 and it's only for Windows. I tried to setup my server using Ubuntu, but that didn't work...you have to use the coding stuff or something, and crap if I know any of that. I never could figure out how to simply share a hard drive and printer over the network, so I gave up and put XP on my server. It's really easy to share stuff on that.

I've also owned an Apple and wasn't really impressed too much to keep it. After the Apple hype came up, I decided I wanted to try out Mac to see if it was all it was said to be. I bought a used iBook G4 with Tiger last September and used it for basic tasks. It wasn't that great to me. Big deal if the chances or getting a virus are slim to none as opposed to Windows. I've been using Windows for as long as I've been using computers and have yet to actually get any big viruses. One was semi-big, but I needed to do reformat of Windows anyway, so I just did that to get rid of it. All the others I have gotten, AVG removed, and I haven't gotten anything at all in like the past 2 years that I know of. So about 2 months ago I sold the iBook to pay for part of my car. I already have a custom desktop w/ 3 LCDs and an HP notebook, so I didn't really use it much.

I will eventually get around to playing with Linux again, but so far I haven't been overly impressed with it as far as ease of use is concerned.

I'll never buy another desktop. Laptops are where its at, and if I MUST have a desktop I will definitely build my own.
I'll never buy another notebook unless I need it. They get slow way too fast. Had my laptop 3 years and I just replaced the slow hard drive and added another gig of RAM to increase performance some. Not to mention the cost. Only upside to a laptop is portability, but how many people get them for that now? I sure didn't when I got mine, it was the "cool" thing of the time to have a laptop over a desktop and I got sucked into that thinking. Only a handful of times has the portability of it been useful. There's a lot more you can do with a desktop if you build it yourself and it will cost so much less than any pre-built or laptop of similar specs (as similar as you can get). And don't be stupid and get a laptop if you want to game on it...the gaming one's are heavy and expensive, and they still don't offer that great of specs. A guy that used to work with me bought a Dell notebook to game on it...he found out it had a geforce 8400...whoopdedoo, that's one lame card.

[WildBuzz]

I've tried out Linux with several different distros and never really go into it. I use Windows because of program compatibility. Show me a decent video editing software that is compatible with Linux...I haven't found one yet...

That's what Wine's for brother, don't have any problems running any of my "Windows" apps on Linux.

Only thing I don't have working right now and am trying to configure the system for right now is so sync with my cell phone which uses Windows Mobile 6, and getting my Infared running so I can transfer my workouts between my Polar watch and my computer. Sure you can say "Well that just shows that it's too complicated", but I'd rather be able to go in there manually and make everything work on my own, that way I know more about the system and how/why it's working.

[capitalcrew]

I bring my laptop back and forth from albany to oneonta every other weekend. It doesn't stay in my room.. ever. It goes with me everywhere.

Portability. Is. Everything.

[Loser47]

That's what Wine's for brother, don't have any problems running any of my "Windows" apps on Linux.
.

Wine is great...if you actually care about windows programs, which i dont(unless you have a gaming computer, but ive never played games using wine; is that possible??)

[Manbearpig]

WOW. The one e-Machines PC I had was total junk.

They're down there with Packard Bells. :D



I have XP and Linux. I can't vote for both. :(


How old was your E-Machines?

I'm referring to anything newer BTW.

[SnowBoardinWNY]

I'm far away from home an I miss my macbook pro :( I'm on this stupid Presario pos notebook. It is literally falling apart and it's huge to unlike my mac.

[4.6stangrage]

i use windows vista and haven't had an issue with it. and no matter what, Bill Gates wins when you run microsoft office on the Mac.

iTunes runs on windows so what about that windows media isnt great enough to interface with an ipod?

[WildBuzz]

Wine is great...if you actually care about windows programs, which i dont(unless you have a gaming computer, but ive never played games using wine; is that possible??)

It works pretty well actually, don't even loose that much performance. For some apps, you might have to configure it a little differently, but the beauty is the community is awesome, so you can always find something to help you out with it.

[carguy07]

iTunes runs on windows so what about that windows media isnt great enough to interface with an ipod?

i wouldn't know. i don't have an ipod.

[4.6stangrage]

One thing I know people look down on macs for is the lack of RAM and the inability for expansion. Well I got an Intel Dual Core Mac Mini and a Single core Power Mac G5 both Excellent computers even though they are kinda old. The Mini is capable of running Mac OS 10.5 and Genuine windows Vista , XP and Linux as well. It is also Upgradeable , the upgradeable components are; RAM, Processor,DVD Superdrive, and Hard drive, external upgrades are also very possible. The G5 Upgrades are almost endless except processor :sad: because all of the special sensors used on these machines. Why is RAM so little compared to the competition? Mac OS X requires less RAM and Hard drive space as well than Windows Vista. just a little info.

[4.6stangrage]

i wouldn't know. i don't have an ipod.

how would you know if Microsoft worked for mac ... do you have a mac?

[Capbyrd]

I use a PC at home and a Mac Pro at work. the 2 gig of ram in my Mac Pro isnt enough. I have 1 gig in my Compaq laptop and it works great. Really, I love the Mac and wouldn't mind having one at home as well. But I cant afford a Mac. They are extrememly over priced as far as I am concerned.


And as for e-machines, I have had an e-machines desktop that has been used daily (and never powered down) for the past three years. It works great. We have both e-machines and dells at work and the e-machines are much better machines.

[carguy07]

how would you know if Microsoft worked for mac ... do you have a mac?

Apple says it in their commercials. i would expect it to be true.

[ilarson007]

Windows... all Apple products cost too much for normal people to buy.

[af3ll]

Windows... all Apple products cost too much for normal people to buy.
I'm a normal person.

[dmark101]

Windows... all Apple products cost too much for normal people to buy.
i'm a normal person as well. the only apple product i own is an iPod and that's it. :)

[capitalcrew]

I'm a normal person. I have one old Ipod, a new ipod touch, and a macbook.

[ilarson007]

Normal younger person; ain't no kid in high school that can afford a Mac... my laptop was $351, without my discount.

[4.6stangrage]

I use a PC at home and a Mac Pro at work. the 2 gig of ram in my Mac Pro isnt enough. I have 1 gig in my Compaq laptop and it works great. Really, I love the Mac and wouldn't mind having one at home as well. But I cant afford a Mac. They are extrememly over priced as far as I am concerned.


And as for e-machines, I have had an e-machines desktop that has been used daily (and never powered down) for the past three years. It works great. We have both e-machines and dells at work and the e-machines are much better machines.

Well It really depends on what you do with it. I have 2GB on my mini and it works great for everything i do. If your compaq runs XP, XP can run well off of 512, Vista requires 1.6 GB of ram (if i am not mistaken) just to boot up alone. Some vista machines have only 1 GB meaning the person is using VM all the time. guys macs arent that badly priced. I bought one New with my wal-mart wages and I have bills, lots of them.

[capitalcrew]

Normal younger person; ain't no kid in high school that can afford a Mac... my laptop was $351, without my discount.

Its cute that you assume I'm not a normal younger person. As a matter of fact, a person who isn't in college will have more money than a person who isn't. In highschool you have no expenses, after college you're using your degree and making more money. So I, being a freshmen in college and fresh out of highschool, should be the one bitching.

I'm not though.

I could afford my mac, I could afford my first laptop when I was in 8th grade and it was over 1k dollars. I just you know, worked.

I am sick of everyone bitching about being underprivileged.

[4.6stangrage]

Woah, No trouble here man. I am not bitching I know all about going through college. I have done a couple semesters already, well a few years back but I have made stupid mistakes and didnt return for the next year. So I hear ya man, didnt mean to knock on anyone. Good your going to college :beernana: keep it going. I plan on going back in 5 months.

[capitalcrew]

Not you man.

[random_hero]

PC fo' lyfe

[ilarson007]

Its cute that you assume I'm not a normal younger person. As a matter of fact, a person who isn't in college will have more money than a person who isn't. In highschool you have no expenses, after college you're using your degree and making more money. So I, being a freshmen in college and fresh out of highschool, should be the one bitching.

I'm not though.

I could afford my mac, I could afford my first laptop when I was in 8th grade and it was over 1k dollars. I just you know, worked.

I am sick of everyone bitching about being underprivileged.

What the fuck are you talking about that I don't have 'expenses?' You seem to assume that mommy and daddy pay for everything for me... Well I have to pay for all my shit, like gas, and oh, the $1250 in car repairs, and I do work because I have to pay for my expenses and anything that I want.... Oh, and gee, I'm not making any kind of money because I don't have a degree yet so I can't get a good job that brings in enough money to pay for my stuff. It's taken me 8 months now to pay the $1750 for my car (which I don't even have completely paid for) and now I've got another $1300 to pay for which is going to take me another 6-7 months to pay for... I was planning on buying a new car when I graduated, not finishing paying for the one I have now.

bolded section makes no sense.

[random_hero]

I'm so fucking underprivelaged!


AUUUGHHH!

[SnowBoardinWNY]

PC fo' lyfe

Everyone that is on this site has a PC you fool. :flipa:

What the fuck are you talking about that I don't have 'expenses?' You seem to assume that mommy and daddy pay for everything for me... Well I have to pay for all my shit, like gas, and oh, the $1250 in car repairs, and I do work because I have to pay for my expenses and anything that I want.... Oh, and gee, I'm not making any kind of money because I don't have a degree yet so I can't get a good job that brings in enough money to pay for my stuff. It's taken me 8 months now to pay the $1750 for my car (which I don't even have completely paid for) and now I've got another $1300 to pay for which is going to take me another 6-7 months to pay for... I was planning on buying a new car when I graduated, not finishing paying for the one I have now.

bolded section makes no sense.

Can you get any more angry for no reason online? This is the internets peoples!

[ravensguildassasin]

i was also tri booting linux vista and mac osx, its nice to be able to do what i want on my computer. here is my current setup on my server/test box.
http://www.linuxmint.com/img/screenshots/elyssa/small/usplash.png

http://www.linuxmint.com/img/screenshots/elyssa/small/mintmenu.png

[capitalcrew]

The only reason it doesn't make sense, is because you don't have enough sense to take two letters off of the last word, so it says "is" like it was originally supposed to. I start making typing errors when I get annoyed with people.

As for the rest, yawn.

[dareall]

if using a Mac was the best way to go, there would be no need for this poll.

[ilarson007]

Can you get any more angry for no reason online? This is the internets peoples!

Well how happy do you think you'd be if you had to work at Wal-Mart and earn jack for it?

[ilarson007]

[QUOTE=ravensguildassasin;118442]i was also tri booting linux vista and mac osx, its nice to be able to do what i want on my computer. here is my current setup on my server/test box.[QUOTE]

Woah... tri-boot? We had a dual boot XP/FC4 on one computer and that was kind of complicated... complicated enough that I wouldn't feel comfortable trying to set that up.

[ilarson007]

As for the rest, yawn.

You try working and not seeing any progress for your labor.

[4.6stangrage]

Not you man.

damn my bad , trying to read too fast and not picking up all of the info ;)

[4.6stangrage]

[QUOTE=ravensguildassasin;118442]i was also tri booting linux vista and mac osx, its nice to be able to do what i want on my computer. here is my current setup on my server/test box.[QUOTE]

Woah... tri-boot? We had a dual boot XP/FC4 on one computer and that was kind of complicated... complicated enough that I wouldn't feel comfortable trying to set that up.

Umm not complicated at all it is extremely easy to set up and use. When you boot up the mac all you do is press "option" or alt for windows keyboards. then it simply shows the boot options. Click on whichever is needed. Definitely not complicating at all. I learned this all myself, no education on it whatsoever. Setup is no sweat, Press C to boot up and go from there, install them on separate partitions.

[ravensguildassasin]

i use grub to do it on my machine. all you do is select which one you want to boot and go. also vista uses grub out of the box. now if you really want to have fun i was quad booting linux, mac osx leopard, xp, and vista. just google tri booting and quad booting and it will tell you the steps it is very easy to set up.

[Loser47]

grub ftw simple and easy

[dragon2200]

I will stick with pc due to the fact that if I need to upgrade a part to run a new game I can unlike mac where you have to buy a new one to get the same result.

[Capbyrd]

I will stick with pc due to the fact that if I need to upgrade a part to run a new game I can unlike mac where you have to buy a new one to get the same result.

You've never owned a mac have you?

[ilarson007]

I use a PC at home and a Mac Pro at work. the 2 gig of ram in my Mac Pro isnt enough. I have 1 gig in my Compaq laptop and it works great. Really, I love the Mac and wouldn't mind having one at home as well. But I cant afford a Mac. They are extrememly over priced as far as I am concerned.

Exactly. And you can't do anything to change Macs, and after working with Windows forever, I don't feel like learning how to use a completely different OS. Linux is nice, but everyone programs for Windows or Mac. Since Mac costs too much, then it's Windows.

Macs are too expensive for me to ever justify buying one. And like it's been said, they are not open source.

[Capbyrd]

What do you mean you can't do anything to them. They are all PC components now.

[af3ll]

Macs aren't hard to use.

[ilarson007]

Macs aren't hard to use.

It is for someone who has used a different OS all their life. And I still like how everyone writes their programs for Windows, and not so much for Mac.

Bottom line, I don't know a thing about the OS side, I don't know a thing about upgrading them, and again, too expensive to justify buying; especially if you have to go and upgrade every few years (like the current trend is)

[ilarson007]

that being said, if developers would get their act together and start writing programs for Linux then we should just forget Windows and Mac

[af3ll]

It is for someone who has used a different OS all their life. And I still like how everyone writes their programs for Windows, and not so much for Mac.

Bottom line, I don't know a thing about the OS side, I don't know a thing about upgrading them, and again, too expensive to justify buying; especially if you have to go and upgrade every few years (like the current trend is)

Bullshit. If you have even the least bit of brains you can figure it out. I used Windows my whole life until I bought my first Mac in 2004. I had no problems figuring it all out. They have a help part that gets you started.

[ilarson007]

That still doesn't address the issue that they are way to expensive...

Macs are like Ferraris. fun to play with, but when it comes time to buy you just go with the Toyota instead...

[TTFOWIA]

the poll's missing a choice: all answers. depends on what you are doing, what are your needs and your skills. I personally use all of them.

[af3ll]

That still doesn't address the issue that they are way to expensive...

Macs are like Ferraris. fun to play with, but when it comes time to buy you just go with the Toyota instead...
I guess man. I like spending money on things that work.

[ilarson007]

My Windows works just fine.

[dragon2200]

My windows works just fine too, I have no problems using all of my photo editing software or games and no compatibility issues what so ever with anything I use, and yes I used to work on the old macs and hated doing so but then again I haven't used anything since the G4

[capitalcrew]

I hated the old Macs too. I swore I'd never own one. Then, using one in the apple store and having ALL kinds of problems with every machine I have that runs windows, I got a mac. No problems yet, and I had no problems figuring anything out.

[4.6stangrage]

true my bad... its all about prefrence.

[capitalcrew]

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/09/19/microsofts_im_a_pc_campaign_created_with_macs.html

giggle.

[Mizzou02RS]

Mac.

I have nothing against PeeCees because there are always applications that one will do better at than the other. I have never used Linux before so I cannot comment on it.

It all comes down to personal preference. Frankly, these Mac vs. PeeCee vs. Linux debates are old because there will never be a true resolution. All are superior in their own way.

We have four Macs in our house and I convinced my bosses to let me have one for my job at the state. I just prefer working with them.

[Mizzou02RS]

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/09/19/microsofts_im_a_pc_campaign_created_with_macs.html

giggle.

I don't care who you are...that is just funny right there.

[Buster]

I don't care who you are...that is just funny right there.

:rofl:

[Buster]

That still doesn't address the issue that they are way to expensive...

Macs are like Ferraris. fun to play with, but when it comes time to buy you just go with the Toyota instead...


I would never go with a Toyota.

[Loser47]

Macs are like Ferraris. fun to play with, but when it comes time to buy you just go with the Ford ZX2 instead...

Absolutely right...

[Mizzou02RS]

Absolutely right...

What are you smoking? :cjw:

[Capbyrd]

Friggin Mizz is still around? What up yo?

[Loser47]

What are you smoking? :cjw:

you must have never seen my z. it could take a ferrari any day.

http://autocult.com.au/img/gallery/nickop567.jpg

[Mizzou02RS]

Hey Cappy!!!

you must have never seen my z. it could take a ferrari any day.

http://autocult.com.au/img/gallery/nickop567.jpg

In your wet dreams perhaps...