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    Question Complete strut assembly question

    This may not be the same question you have seen before...
    I am looking to get new front struts as complete assemblies, but when I check the piston length and extended/collapsed length, I find most front complete (with springs, etc.) are using the stock Escort struts, not a ZX2 strut which has an inch difference (shorter) travel and the collapsed/extended sizes are about an 1 1/4" different. Does anyone know of anyone selling a correct complete strut (stock) assembly?

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    Last edited by ghostrider2k; 09-02-2011 at 11:25 AM. Reason: Pirates stole my Rum

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    I blieve the Escort struts are the same as the stock ZX2 struts. The FR-SR struts were shorter.
    I have a full set of ZX2strut assemblies I could measure.

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    Exclamation We've been lied to....

    If you go to Gabriel and Monroe sites and get the info on say mine (1999) ZX2 vs a standard Escort,

    ZX2; Gabriel Part # G56801
    Shock Extended Length: 17.25 in.
    Shock Collapsed Length: 11.75 in.
    Length of Stroke: 5.5 in

    Standard Escort (again according to the strut makers) part # G56515
    Shock Extended Length: 16.14 in.
    Shock Collapsed Length: 8.43 in.
    Length of Stroke: 7.71 in

    took time to call this afternoon to Gabriel and Monroe's tech lines (pretending to be from CarQuest, hey, I worked there once...) and the tech guy was wondering why they (auto parts stores, rock auto included) show the complete strut that matches to the standard escort, so he got his own tech/spec book out. He told me the ZX2 (SR2 included) has double valving whereas the standard escort does not and the pressure is different (stiffer ride) so thats all he could tell me and now I know they must not make one for the stock ride height. Unless anyone out there can point me to some....

    GR
    Last edited by ghostrider2k; 09-02-2011 at 07:32 PM. Reason: monkeys took my pliers

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    The shock length of travel does not change the ride height.
    The springs do.
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    My buddie puts in sedan assemblies all the time. It's fine for the average person. if your racing it then I would push for the zx2 struts. I'd go with entire assemblies over struts and plates. usually cheaper overall and less work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mechtech View Post
    The shock length of travel does not change the ride height.
    The springs do.
    True But the longer stroke makes for a less stiff (ie less resilient) ride, esp. in a shorter strut/shock (Theres a technical term for it but I'm too beat to remember), anyway I wasn't worried about that I was wondering about the bounce/jounce/sway differences.
    I've been to 6 or 8 Monroe/Wagner seminars when I worked for Big A/CarQuest and then Bumper to Bumper (I think they are Auto Value now) and they stressed tolerances/gas density, etc for ride/handling...plus their food was always good, but that's been a few years ago when I was ASC certified.
    But I always differ to people who have street experience over book smarts on these things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diesel View Post
    My buddie puts in sedan assemblies all the time. It's fine for the average person. if your racing it then I would push for the zx2 struts. I'd go with entire assemblies over struts and plates. usually cheaper overall and less work.
    So you don't think it would loosen the ride putting in a shorter strut on the front (Albeit a longer stroke, but the math doesn't equal out)? I had seen this before when I was in auto parts on other imports/cross-overs and one guy's Honda? Toyota? broke the strut (punched through the bottom, he was a douche anyway) and he put it in a ditch...again years ago and different cars but its my wife's car...be me I would probably not care, but she travels 90 miles a day on KY 'roads'.
    Yeah I am all for less work, trust me
    I also saw Rock Auto has Leacree[?] struts cheap, I know they are Chinese but they have an office/plant here in the states. I can't really find any data on them, that's how this strut adventure got started...
    I was just going to use Sensa-Trac struts, new plates and bellows and reuse my springs (which aren't broke, but I can take two coils with one hand and collapse them a little...? Maybe I'm used to bigger cars?) to put it together...will keep going for now though. Keep the ideas coming, all data is good data

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    Try searchink for a mazda 323 I hear the suspension is identical.
    With your "roads" I wouldn't go with the cheap struts they just don't last. And if you get assembelies they will be all matched springs & struts. Now if you were changing just struts and reusing the springs then mabey I could see an issue. But many on here are running with lowering springs and stock struts. I will be guilty of this soon also.
    Again my buddie puts entire asssemblies from 4 doors in zx2's all the time. He dosen't do just the struts. He has a trailer full of this shit. He say's they look identical can't tell the difference.

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    I believe that the shaft on the 323 front struts is going to be a smaller diameter than the ones on the ZX2. I know that is true for the 91-96 Escorts which have an identical suspension to the 323/Protege. The suspension on the ZX2 and 3rd gen Escort was slightly revised.

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    I beleive you right about the strut diameter. but if he's buying complete assemblies it won't matter their matched and already compressed ready to bolt in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diesel View Post
    But many on here are running with lowering springs and stock struts..
    guilty and on 165k factory struts. doing fine so far, no bounce

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    for fun I found near you both front SR struts assemblies for under $100 for the pair.
    and both rears for call for price.
    Jim's Auto Parts & Salvage USA-KY(Frankfort) E-mail 502-223-8240/1-888-223-8240 has all four for call for price 41 miles from you.
    You know you want it lowered. for super cheap.
    This guy 30 miles from you wants $100 for both fronts off a '02 and $70 $80 or $100 for a pair of rears.
    A & A Auto & Truck Salvage, Inc. USA-KY(Berea) Request_Quote 800-690-1333 / 859-986-2040 Request_Insurance_Quote

    But But But SR setup super cheap you NEED those.

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    Well again, its my wife's and its got to last a few years...so I probably go for the assemblies for stock (She has a bad back and if I say 'performance' she will growl), but thanks for the info.
    Is the S/R (pardon my inexperience here) setup other than lower any benefit?
    I was thinking going with Monroe's, about $!00 per side new assemblies...

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    The springs are also for racing different then the DD lowering springs.
    Common $100 per side not corner.
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